Traditional Dark World Deck

Discussion in 'Traditional Format Decks (YGO)' started by Raistlin Majere, Dec 4, 2005.

  1. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    Tribute Monsters: 7
    [ycard="DB2-EN124"]Dark Ruler Ha Des[/ycard]

    [ycard="SDY-004"]Summoned Skull[/ycard]
    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN024"]Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN023"]Sillva, Warlord of Dark World[/ycard]



    Non-Tribute Monsters: 19
    [ycard="EEN-EN021"]Broww, Huntsman of Dark World[/ycard]
    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN022"]Brron, Mad King of Dark World[/ycard]
    [ycard="CRV-EN019"]Cyber Archfiend[/ycard]

    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN001"]Zure, Knight of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN020"]Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN025"]Scarr, Scout of Dark World[/ycard]
    [ycard="SOD-EN010"]Dark Mimic LV3[/ycard]
    [ycard="MRD-EN069"]Sangan[/ycard]

    [ycard="DB1-EN163"]Magician of Faith[/ycard]
    [ycard="AST-080"]Night Assailant[/ycard]
    [ycard="MRD-EN014"]Mask of Darkness[/ycard]
    [ycard="SOD-EN009"]Dark Mimic LV1[/ycard]



    Spells:20
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN038"]Dark World Lightning[/ycard]
    [ycard="EEN-EN048"]Gateway to Dark World[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD2-EN013"]Snatch Steal[/ycard]
    [ycard="SDY-042"]Card Destruction[/ycard]
    [ycard="SRL-EN047"]Mystical Space Typhoon[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB1-EN167"]The Cheerful Coffin[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD5-EN031"]Swords of Concealing Light[/ycard]
    [ycard="DCR-084"]Dragged Down into the Grave[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD4-EN019"]Heavy Storm[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD1-EN013"]Premature Burial[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD3-EN017"]Nobleman of Crossout[/ycard]
    [ycard="SDJ-032"]Giant Trunade[/ycard]

    [ycard="SDY-030"]Monster Reborn[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB2-EN233"]Mirage of Nightmare[/ycard]
    [ycard="SRL-EN049"]Painful Choice[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB2-EN095"]Graceful Charity[/ycard]
    [ycard="EEN-EN037"]Pot of Avarice[/ycard]

    [ycard="LOB-EN119"]Pot of Greed[/ycard]

    Traps: 9
    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN051"]The Forces of Darkness[/ycard]

    [ycard="SD3-EN028"]Call of the Haunted[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN052"]Dark Deal[/ycard]

    2 x [ycard="SOD-EN056"]Mind Crush[/ycard]
    [ycard="AST-053"]Beckoning Light[/ycard]

    I look forward to the opportunity to duel with this!
    After some match play I have changed the ratio's a little
  2. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    its a traditional deck, dude...

    thats all i have to say about that..
  3. Digital Jedi

    Digital Jedi Administrator Staff Member

    Well, that's why he posted it in the Traditional Section. Though I have to admit, the Traditional Format section hasn't see any activity in recent months. Signs of the times I guess.

    Incidently, feel free to say hello in the Intro/Farewell section, Raistlin. Welcome to the forums. (Which is what you should have done, Krazy. Tsk Tsk.)
  4. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    I know its traditional, but come on.. how can you not know what the staples for the CCC decks is?

    maybe they dont want to play that, but come on were is [ycard="PSV-EN104"]Imperial Order[/ycard]?
  5. Digital Jedi

    Digital Jedi Administrator Staff Member

    Well Raistlin is offline right now, but I'll bet you ten to one it's because this a real world deck and [ycard="PSV-EN104"]Imperial Order[/ycard] is still hard to get. But that's a good suggestion to make. Meanie. :p
  6. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    What?!? since when?

    we got one from a DB1 Pack, its sitting there collecting dust cause we cant use it.

    not tomention when we traded off [ycard="LOB-EN053"]Raigeki[/ycard].... man we got all the banned cards after they got banned.. its sad :(
  7. Digital Jedi

    Digital Jedi Administrator Staff Member

    Even the reprints of certain cards aren't the easiest in the world to get. People held on to their [ycard="SD3-EN028"]Call of the Haunted[/ycard] reprints so tight they crushed the Gravestones.
  8. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    No don't have [ycard="PSV-EN104"]Imperial Order[/ycard], but It doesn't work with my theme.

    As well as [ycard="LOB-EN053"]Raigeki[/ycard] which I have, I may consider it, as the next Traditional Format tournament is not until 29 April, plenty of time to deck test
  9. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    jezz.. long time away for a tourney man..

    why not go with CCC? it wins games :D lol
  10. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    If I went with CCC then it wouldn't be Dark World!

    This Build has it's greatest effect in the Traditional environment, where [ycard="SDP-040"]Graceful Charity[/ycard] gives you 3 Cards, and any two Dark Worlds like Beiige, Sillva or Goldd get specialed back from the Grave.
    [ycard="DB2-EN233"]Mirage of Nightmare[/ycard] allows you to Draw 4 Cards during your opponents standby, and discard 4 Dark Worlds in your Standby if things go well.
    [ycard="SRL-EN049"]Painful Choice[/ycard] is awesome in that you can select all the ammo you need, so long as you have a set Forces of Darkness. Pop that card after Painful has resolved and add the 2 you really want to your hand and deal out some pain. A great deck thinner. And also Primes for [ycard="EEN-EN037"]Pot of Avarice[/ycard] effect conditions.
    Get a lot of cards, dump a lot of cards they get specialled and you can still Normal summon. I love it!!
    I really don't care if it wins, although that is an aim and goal of the deck. It's very nature creates a sort of adrenaline/ bungee jump tempo to the game.
    I would like to see how well this fairs against Chaos and Burn.
    There are not that many Traditional events in New Zealand, I will just have to play Sealed and Advanced Constructed till then.
  11. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    if you play sealed and advace format constructed, then why go with a standard build?


    CCC still makes chaos in traditional. surprised people pay 30-40 for both cards still.
  12. Digital Jedi

    Digital Jedi Administrator Staff Member

    Yeah, the Traditional Tourneys are becoming fewer and farther between even in the states. Even before the ban I went with non-traditional decks and did well with them. But I haven't played in so long I'm a little rusty about giving advise. I've gotten too used to Advance and all the idiosyncrisies that go with it. Most of our members have gone this route as well. I think yours is the first deck in this section for two to three months. I apologize if you don't get the feedback you'd ordinarily get on a larger board. It seems we've all gone Advance and didn't even realize it. :) Though if you do have an Advance Format Deck, feel free to post it too.

    Oh you'll have to excuse Krazy. He plays Shaman King. :p He takes a bit of getting used to. ;)
  13. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    Drop the [ycard="LOB-EN119"]Pot of Greed[/ycard], [ycard="SDP-040"]Graceful Charity[/ycard], [ycard="DB2-EN233"]Mirage of Nightmare[/ycard], [ycard="SRL-EN049"]Painful Choice[/ycard] and [ycard="SDY-030"]Monster Reborn[/ycard] and that is my standard Dark World Deck. Although i don't have any Goldds yet, they are so close I can taste them.
    After play testing dark world I can see the synergy that this deck gets in traditional is huge compared to other builds. [ycard="SDP-040"]Graceful Charity[/ycard] all on it's own makes this deck rock beyond [ycard="DR1-EN029"]Reasoning[/ycard].
    Hope this has helped some peoples understanding of the Dark World. I am working on the Optimum build of this Deck, I will post once I have played through it extensively
  14. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    yea, but thats a darkworld deck were YOU activate all the effects.

    thats not really taking full potential of Gold and Silver since their better at beign discarded by opponent card effect.

    also [ycard="SDY-004"]Summoned Skull[/ycard] to me looks like a tribute Aggro creature.

    actually you know what, this is a NO effect Dark Realm Aggro deck.

    there you go. :)
  15. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    [ycard="SDY-004"]Summoned Skull[/ycard] for one is a Dark Fiend, it can be summoned from the grave by [ycard="SD1-EN013"]Premature Burial[/ycard] and [ycard="SD4-EN027"]Call of the Haunted[/ycard], it is a 5 star, single tribute that beats the bejesus out of the [ycard="EEN-ENSE3"]Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys[/ycard], [ycard="DB1-EN067"]Jinzo[/ycard], [ycard="PCJ-EN001"]Red-Eyes B. Dragon[/ycard] and [ycard="DB2-EN124"]Dark Ruler Ha Des[/ycard] if he gets snatched from you.
    The potential for Goldd and Sillva is you can get them out offensively or defensively what ever way they are dangerous.
    Why shouldn't you activate the Dark World effects?
    It is a matter of finding a dek that works to each others strengths, and have effective counters to your perceived weaknessses.
    If you want me to explain why everything is in there I am more than happy to explain.
  16. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    you dont really need SS, okay, your right, he can "hypothetically" beat all thouse crazy 1 tribute monsters that are under him.

    BUT you arnt running a single [ycard="DB2-EN106"]Royal Decree[/ycard] to save your life in this traditional deck.

    not to mention, in traditional, while yes you can use reborn, pot, grace etc... it also means, that you have to go up against [ycard="LON-EN025"]Torrential Tribute[/ycard], [ycard="DB2-EN081"]Mirror Force[/ycard], [ycard="IOC-SE3"]Ring of Destruction[/ycard], etc...

    most of which are cards you arnt running. not to mention [ycard="PSV-EN104"]Imperial Order[/ycard].

    while yea its fun and dandy to say, it could work, it could also go to the deep end and cause chaos for you.

    easily, a deck would use [ycard="PSV-EN104"]Imperial Order[/ycard] to shut down alot of your spells. not to mention you only have 1 mass removal spell trap card, which would be [ycard="SD4-EN019"]Heavy Storm[/ycard].

    again, by that point in time you will most likely have felt the rath of a soldier pounding you to bits and pieces.

    Really, dark realm in its entire was ment to be good, BUT it only gains its true potential in an enviroment were hand advantage / disadvantage measn everything.

    hence, in advance it can succeed while in traditional it can fail.

    try it out, i really have nothing to suggest since, i know that the image you will be facing will be something that is very hard to counter.
  17. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    [ycard="EEN-EN038"]Dark World Lightning[/ycard] is an effective tool against [ycard="SD2-EN025"]Torrential Tribute[/ycard], [ycard="IOC-SE3"]Ring of Destruction[/ycard] and [ycard="DB2-EN081"]Mirror Force[/ycard], or [ycard="DR1-EN264"]Sakuretsu Armor[/ycard]. If they are chained, fine you don't discard. Kill them and discard for Dark World effects.
    The Dark World cards can deal with a lot of situations, that you can have 3 of them and reduce other staples to keep the deck count down and maintain speed.
    [ycard="BPT-002"]Summoned Skull[/ycard] is one of the best fiends in the whole TCG, people choose not to use him so they can run an effect monster.
    This Card can suicide into [ycard="BPT-001"]Dark Magician[/ycard] if need be.
    I could add a [ycard="SYE-038"]Mystic Plasma Zone[/ycard] to make life interesting.
    [ycard="TP4-001"]Royal Decree[/ycard] is fine, but I want my traps like [ycard="EEN-EN052"]Dark Deal[/ycard] to fire so stuffing them over with that card is wasting cards and time.
    The Traps need to work that is why a [ycard="DB1-EN067"]Jinzo[/ycard] killer like [ycard="BPT-002"]Summoned Skull[/ycard] is needed. The potential is with [ycard="MC1-EN006"]Dark Ruler Ha Des[/ycard] on the field, then the Dark World monsters swarm and take down the opposition and their effects are negated.
    There is never a perfect build, and there are effective side deck options. I haven't listed my side Deck, so I can keep a few surprises in the 2nd or 3rd Duels if need be?
    With [ycard="SOD-EN056"]Mind Crush[/ycard] I can take out a number of threats and the bonus is if it isn't in the hand I get to discard a Dark World monster (setting this up is crutial).
    I haven't place [ycard="SP1-EN004"]Exchange of the Spirit[/ycard] in either and that is great in this deck in Advanced and Traditional, if that suits your style!?
    I will not be able to prove my theory until 30 April 2006. So log in that evening and I believe I will be posting a strong result from that event.
  18. krazykidpsx

    krazykidpsx New Member

    alright then you stated it... :) ill be waiting.. :)
  19. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    After playing this Deck in Advanced less the banned cards of course, I had little success. As I played against other similar Dark World Decks.

    The [ycard="EEN-EN038"]Dark World Lightning[/ycard] worked very well, and gave me enormous field presence in my first Duel, having to resnatch my own Sillva gave my opponent more points than I had kulled off him with my earlier field presence.
    The look on his face was priceless, killed 2 Magic Cards with [ycard="EEN-EN038"]Dark World Lightning[/ycard] to Summon [ycard="EEN-EN023"]Sillva, Warlord of Dark World[/ycard] and [ycard="EEN-EN020"]Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World[/ycard] to stand next to my normal summoned [ycard="EEN-EN001"]Zure, Knight of Dark World[/ycard]. The comment was something like WTF.
    I was saying the same after Sillva was snatched!
    Anyway, just a little tweaking to my deck to get it purring.
    I finished 8th in the December Wellington Regional.
  20. Raistlin Majere

    Raistlin Majere New Member

    Traditional Dark World Deck
    Tribute Monsters: 6
    [ycard="LOD-EN001"]Dark Ruler Ha Des[/ycard]

    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN024"]Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN023"]Sillva, Warlord of Dark World[/ycard]



    Non-Tribute Monsters: 17
    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN021"]Broww, Huntsman of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN022"]Brron, Mad King of Dark World[/ycard]

    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN001"]Zure, Knight of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN020"]Beiige, Vanguard of Dark World[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN025"]Scarr, Scout of Dark World[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB2-EN042"]Sangan[/ycard]
    [ycard="DR2-EN193"]Night Assailant[/ycard]
    [ycard="MRD-EN014"]Mask of Darkness[/ycard]


    Spells:21
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN038"]Dark World Lightning[/ycard]
    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN048"]Gateway to Dark World[/ycard]

    [ycard="SD6-EN028"]Lightning Vortex[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD4-EN015"]Snatch Steal[/ycard]
    [ycard="SDY-042"]Card Destruction[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD4-EN016"]Mystical Space Typhoon[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB1-EN167"]The Cheerful Coffin[/ycard]
    [ycard="FET-EN042"]Swords of Concealing Light[/ycard]
    [ycard="DCR-084"]Dragged Down into the Grave[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD6-EN023"]Heavy Storm[/ycard]
    [ycard="SKE-039"]Premature Burial[/ycard]
    [ycard="SKE-038"]Nobleman of Crossout[/ycard]
    [ycard="SD5-EN021"]Giant Trunade[/ycard]

    [ycard="SDJ-035"]Monster Reborn[/ycard]
    [ycard="PGD-036"]Mirage of Nightmare[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB2-EN095"]Graceful Charity[/ycard]
    [ycard="EEN-EN037"]Pot of Avarice[/ycard]

    [ycard="SYE-040"]Pot of Greed[/ycard]

    Traps: 9
    2 x [ycard="EEN-EN051"]The Forces of Darkness[/ycard]

    [ycard="SD4-EN027"]Call of the Haunted[/ycard]
    3 x [ycard="EEN-EN052"]Dark Deal[/ycard]

    2 x [ycard="SOD-EN056"]Mind Crush[/ycard]
    [ycard="DB1-EN228"]Torrential Tribute[/ycard]

    Time has moved on and my Deck testing has modified this a bit.
    With [ycard="DB2-EN095"]Graceful Charity[/ycard] back in Advanced, it makes a big difference to this deck. Raviel or Demise may work with this deck, I will have to give it a go. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

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