Digital Jedi's Erratas That Make Sense

erm...about the whole effect thign (as you say, quoted by JDOS), Konami and UDE don't take us for total idiots, and believe we are smart enough to actually figure out the effect type (I'll admit some are confusing)...but yeah

If you control a monster, doesn't that mean it's not on your opponent's side of the field?


On whole, there were some good points in your thread, but for the most part I agree with Spike. Most people aren't complete morons and can figure it out as it is. Also there is a standard way UDE/Konami explain how a card works, and once you get used to it, it's pretty obvious most the time.

I agree with Spike and Xeno, that MOST cards and effects can be figured out without expending too much brainpower. My question to you then would be, why do we need to expend even that much? Why shouldn't the effect type be spelled out for everyone? That's just good tidy documentation.

This would cause all arguments related to effect types to cease without having to rely on judges and Netrepâ„¢s to clear up every little piece of minutiae. Then they can actually focus on the difficult answers instead of repeating over and over again with every new generation of duelists that, yes, Jowgen has 2 different effects, and no, one does not depend upon the other....and on and on and on.

I write a lot of end user documentation in my professional life, and I can tell you that the more sussinctly you spell something out to people, the better off you will be in the long run. The more you leave open to interpretation, the more interpretations will arise. Even ones you would never have thought up yourself.

Clarity is a phenominal tool.

Fair enough. But if we teach new duelists that the effects of all cards are exactly as written, then what will we do when they start taking the effects of older cards seriously?

Especially cards that have errata due to total misprints (as opposed to erratas that simply clarify cards, like [ycard="SKE-045"]Dust Tornado[/ycard]). Like [ycard="MFC-060"]Amazoness Fighter[/ycard], [ycard="SDK-050"]Ultimate Offering[/ycard], (working in the opponents battle phase,) cards like [ycard="LON-EN023"]Tornado Wall[/ycard], and [ycard="DB1-EN173"]Attack and Receive[/ycard], (only working with battle damage,) the errata'd name of After Genocide (now [ycard="LOD-EN086"]After the Struggle[/ycard]), and I think that now even the name of one of the sets has been changed from Magic Rulers to Spell Rulers? (I never was aware of that, until I suddenly noticed that people were referring to cards from "spell rulers". It took me awhile to realize why.)

I admit that effects written more clearly would have helped immensely, had it started earlier, but I would imagine that it would be pretty difficult now to make the transition smoothly. If it ever happens, maybe I'll go to a low level tournament, and bring my 1st edition [ycard="BPT-004"]Lord of D.[/ycard], just to see the look on everyone's faces when they encounter its "original" effect.

Yeah, that's true, I was just presenting the flip side of the coin (and also wanted to mention the fun of showing newbies one of the earliest cards...)

What bugs me most are cards that require a cost of discarding cards (or RFP cards), and on way too many cards of that nature, the card says any type of card can be used, but the errata says that it has to be a specific type (monster, or spell, for most cards I think). It bugs me, because its too difficult to memorize each of those cards and their errata...

My point being that if it only happened on a few cards, it would be understandable. But when it gets to be of a volume so large that all erratas must be printed, so as to have hard copies of all rulings, its gotten way out of hand.

Most people refer to it as "Trample," from the Magic ability that essentially does the same thing.

Never thought I would ever quote a tip card, but...

Tip Card #44 of 50 (Dark Revelation)

Piercing Battle Damage

"Mefist the Infernal General" has an effect that inflicts Battle Damage to the opponent when he battles with a Defense Position monster and his ATK is higher than the defending monster's DEF.

"Big Bang Shot" is an Equip Spell Card that gives the same effect of "Piercing Battle Damage" to any monster equipped with it. But remember that putting a "Big Bang Shot" on "Mefist the Infernal General" will not make the opponent take double the damage, since Battle Damage is only inflicted one time per battle.

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It's called "Piercing Battle Damage". Wow, practical application of a tip card...of course, there was not Mefist or Big Bang in the pack the tip card came in...go figure.

Wait, who's penetrating the [ycard="MFC-062"]Amazoness Blowpiper[/ycard]? I'm jealous... (or is it envious? I always get those two words mixed up...)

Both of [ycard="SYE-024"]Black Luster Soldier[/ycard]'s effects are ignition, people just don't know how to use [ycard="SYE-024"]Black Luster Soldier[/ycard].

Also, you should use trample instead of overkill.

use the term "loyalty" for [ycard="DCR-022"]Blindly Loyal Goblin[/ycard] and [ycard="IOC-086"]Mataza the Zapper[/ycard].

you should use the term "exaust" for monsters that switch into defense after an attack. cards like GAF and [ycard="DR1-EN067"]Giant Orc[/ycard] would say "you may not change the battle position of this monster the turn after it has attacked"

And that, right there, is exactly why it would be helpful if Konami spelled out the type of effect right on the card. Even the effects on the (arguably) most used card in the game are in question. Some say Optional Trigger, some say Ignition. I'd say "point proven". lol.

I like "Impale" ([ycard="LOD-EN035"]Spear Dragon[/ycard], [ycard="PGD-062"]Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier[/ycard], [ycard="DB1-EN201"]Mad Sword Beast[/ycard]'s Horn)

Actually the VS system games (Marvel/DC) are by Upper Deck so I don't think UDE would sue itself over terminology.

Here's one: Hibernate. Term for creatures that can flip themselves face down lol.