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Should've, would've, could've... :) many card texts in this game can or would have better sense if written differently, unfortunately, we just have to accept the way they are written now :)

I know I haven't been a member for so long in this forum, but I truly appreciate everything this forum did for me, I learned more than I could ever imagine. Hopefully some of you learned at least something from me as well. I'm leaving Yu-Gi and everything behind since im planning on getting...

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Who´s to say that a position change is not a game event just as Carlos stated, it´s a manual OR automatic action, therefore it has to be considered a game event.

Just a minor detail here, Swords does not get destroyed by it´s effect, it just gets removed from the field.

You are right, chains can only be built up with Spell Speeds, Spell Speed 1: Ignition Effect, Normal Spells, etc. Spell Speed 2: Normal Trap Cards, Quick Spell Cards Multi-Trigger Effects, etc. Spell Speed 3: Counter Traps So you can chain a Spell Speed 2 to a Spell Speed 1 but NOT to a Spell...

Thanks DaGuy, I was sure there was a ruling about it.

I could if I could find the old netrep files, im 99% positive there was a ruling that stated that if Call were to be negated by Jinzo and Jinzo is removed from the field, Call would "re-activate" since it's connection to the monster was only severed NOT lost.

Summoned Skull will be destroyed.

You just have to cut everyone´s aspirations short :sorry Lol, I think I better come back after im off work, I might be thinking alot better by then :-:.

Ah yes, you are correct, well im going back to my cell block now @_@... Aside from the Archfiends though there is another monster: Voltanis.

Interesting enough, there are rulings that state otherwise: If "Final Attack Orders" and "Berserk Gorilla" are both on the field, and the opponent targets "Berserk Gorilla" with "Ring of Destruction", and you chain "Zero Gravity", "Berserk Gorilla" is destroyed in the middle of the chain due to...

I was addressing Doc, on what would happen if Gearfried the Iron Knight was considered a trigger effect. I was reflecting it as the same situation as in Gearfried the Swordsmaster.

Well, this might clear it up, considering Gearfried the Swordmaster IS a trigger effect: The effect of "Gearfried the Swordmaster" can activate even in the Damage Step. For example, if "Brain Jacker" is attacked by "Gearfried the Swordmaster", and "Waboku" was activated earlier in the turn...

I'm not disagreeing in what you say (IMO the token is gone, as I stated many posts behind), though we are having a pass the ball game with noone giving in what they believe it's their point of view. Many scenarios have been given already, supporting both cases, and in the end it's yet to be...

That's something I must agree on, many terms in this game are to vague to yet be developed into something concrete to evaluate rules or even assumptions.

This is MPO, the way I see it is, though it's a trigger effect, it still has a summoning requirement, and because summons have no spell speed there is only one window for summoning the monster. Similar to Voltanis, which the only window of summoning him is immediately after the Counter Trap has...

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I also consider it a very important issue since there is still evidence of being a trigger effect.

Just to add something in, anything involves, anything that destroys him in the Deck, Hand or Field.