exiledforcefreak
RIP Jacob KT 2/16/06
What happens if three or more team attacking gotham knights characters stun a donna troy*wonder girl while GCPD headquarters is on the field?
Donna troy vs. GCPD headquarters?
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I'm going to go by the Comprehensive Rules entry for this one:
504.2 The player that plays the effect is the controller of that effect. If an effect is triggered, the player who controlled the object that triggered an effect, at the time it triggered, is the controller of that effect.
Both of [vcard=DOR-039]Donna Troy ¯ Wonder Girl[/vcard]'s and [vcard=DOR-030]GCPD Headquarters[/vcard]' effects at issue here are triggered effects. Since the attackers in this case are controlled by the owner of [vcard=DOR-030]GCPD Headquarters[/vcard], then that player is the controller of the objects responsible for triggering Donna's effect. As a result he would be the controller of Donna's effect and [vcard=DOR-030]GCPD Headquarters[/vcard]' and could decide which order to place them on the chain.
504.2 The player that plays the effect is the controller of that effect. If an effect is triggered, the player who controlled the object that triggered an effect, at the time it triggered, is the controller of that effect.
Both of [vcard=DOR-039]Donna Troy ¯ Wonder Girl[/vcard]'s and [vcard=DOR-030]GCPD Headquarters[/vcard]' effects at issue here are triggered effects. Since the attackers in this case are controlled by the owner of [vcard=DOR-030]GCPD Headquarters[/vcard], then that player is the controller of the objects responsible for triggering Donna's effect. As a result he would be the controller of Donna's effect and [vcard=DOR-030]GCPD Headquarters[/vcard]' and could decide which order to place them on the chain.
exiledforcefreak
RIP Jacob KT 2/16/06
could you put that in to terms I understand... I'm not at your level yet so generalizing doesn't creates confusion for me, it prevents it
EFF, I haven't forgotten you. Its just I think there was some flaw to my logic earlier and wanted to be sure not to post anymore incorrect info. Here is the correct answer.
703.3 If multiple triggered effects trigger simultaneously, they will all be added to the chain the next time the game instructs players to add triggered effects to the chain. The primary player gets to choose in what order his or her triggered effects go on the chain, and then they are added to the chain. Then the next player clockwise from the primary player gets to choose in what order his or her triggered effects go on the chain, and then his or her triggered effects are added to the chain on top of the previous player's. Then the next player clockwise from that player does the same, and so on. (See rule 506.3.)
Okay, you are the Gotham Knights player in this scenario. You've attacked Donna with three team attackers and GCPD HQ on the field. Both effects are Trigger Effects and happen simultaneously. This rule clearly state that they are added to the chain. (Keep in mind all this triggers as Donna becomes stunned)
So the primary player (the player whose step it is) places his effect (GCPD HQ) on the chain first. Then, if he adds nothing else to the chain, he passes clockwise to the next player and he/she adds Donna's effect to the chain.
Since Donna's effect was place last on the chain, it resolves first and she returns to the hand, then GCPD HQ's effect resolves with nothing to KO.
Also keep in mind that either way Donna's controller is going to take stun endurance loss. Her effect is "when she becomes stunned" not like toads which is "if he would become stunned"
703.3 If multiple triggered effects trigger simultaneously, they will all be added to the chain the next time the game instructs players to add triggered effects to the chain. The primary player gets to choose in what order his or her triggered effects go on the chain, and then they are added to the chain. Then the next player clockwise from the primary player gets to choose in what order his or her triggered effects go on the chain, and then his or her triggered effects are added to the chain on top of the previous player's. Then the next player clockwise from that player does the same, and so on. (See rule 506.3.)
Okay, you are the Gotham Knights player in this scenario. You've attacked Donna with three team attackers and GCPD HQ on the field. Both effects are Trigger Effects and happen simultaneously. This rule clearly state that they are added to the chain. (Keep in mind all this triggers as Donna becomes stunned)
So the primary player (the player whose step it is) places his effect (GCPD HQ) on the chain first. Then, if he adds nothing else to the chain, he passes clockwise to the next player and he/she adds Donna's effect to the chain.
Since Donna's effect was place last on the chain, it resolves first and she returns to the hand, then GCPD HQ's effect resolves with nothing to KO.
Also keep in mind that either way Donna's controller is going to take stun endurance loss. Her effect is "when she becomes stunned" not like toads which is "if he would become stunned"
exiledforcefreak
RIP Jacob KT 2/16/06
That's what I thought initially. Your first posted confused the heck out of me.
Sorry about that.