NBC's "Heroes" Spoiler Discussion Thread

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I didn't remember to bump the last two weeks like I usually do. Don't read this if you've missed an episode and don't the ending ruined.

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So we can discuss freely here, since some of you have an aversion to highlighting. :D


Okay this was the point I was trying to make in the other thread. You only need a few people of a particular generation to undergo a genetic change, if you want the species to continue changing from there on out. In X-Men, the genetic changes are random. Parents with no powers have mutant's children and mutant parents can have powerless children. But it makes more sense that if this is an "evolutionary" change, as the show suggests, then it would only be necessary for a handful of people to have powers, and then pass them onto their children. In other words, I figured Junior had skills. Remember, he liked to fix things.

Hiro finally got to something useful, I see. And who knew Nathan was married? I like how they fill in the gaps on this show. We didn't know Claire had a brother till about two episodes ago. I'm starting to wonder what else we haven't been filled in on yet. Like do Matt and his wife have kids we don't know about? Or are there people looking for Hiro and Ando, like family and friends (or work)?
 
If I'm not mistaken, you knew Nathan was married as of the 2nd episode if not the first (but definately when he was talking about what happenned to his wife when he tried to say Peter tried to commit suicide). Also he mentioned he was married to Niki before hooking up with her. It wasn't really a big secret.

Same with Claire's brother who also appeared I believe in week 2 when you met her family. They really weren't hiding these "incidentals". ;)
 
The thing that I'm really liking at this point is that it isn't an instant "good squad" that is forming to save the world.

Sure Hiro is the only one on a mission of justice, but he is still kind of "cheesy" in his activities. I wonder if we'll get to see the transformation that makes him the more "serious" Hiro that finds Peter on the subway.

Look at Nicki and her husband. She seems more conflicted than anything and the "bad" side of her is clearly running rampant. You think she might side up wtih whoever is going to blow up NYC? The dad is questionable considering he was in prison. His motives look good after the fact, but we still don't have the story.

Will Nathan embrace his powers? Does he win the election due to dubious means?

There's plenty of good intent with a few of the folks, primarily Peter and Hiro, but you still need to get the gang together and not everybody wants to get on board.

All in all we're loving it here!
 
My question is this....

How many 'other' powers does Nikki's son have? I already 'suspected' he had powers, but I'm just curious how many he has.

I also like the fact that he (the son) can tell when he's dealing with Nikki (his mom) or Jessica (her alter ego).
 
skey23 said:
I also like the fact that he (the son) can tell when he's dealing with Nikki (his mom) or Jessica (her alter ego).
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That part was awesome. Micah is way cool.
Digital Jedi said:
I didn't remember to bump the last two weeks like I usually do. Don't read this if you've missed an episode and don't the ending ruined.

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So we can discuss freely here, since some of you have an aversion to highlighting.
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Ha, I still highlighted the blank, arrowed section out of reflex as well as to see if I missed anything...
 
Does anyone remember Micah form the sitcom "My Wife and Kids"? It was the one with Damon Wayans and Tisha Campbell (Gina from Martin). He was the boy genius next door who was madly in love with their youngest daughter. The kids was a pretty bad actor back in the day, when he could get by on the "cute" factor. Glad to see he's improved considerably. He was also The Interpreter in The Lady on the Water".
 
DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
Okay, first, that crash Charlie (Memory Girl) heard just before she lost her mind (bad pun) HAD to be Hiro (interesting that the title of episode ten is called "Six Months Ago") BTW, of course everyone recognized (in the diner, when he telepathically brought his cup to his hand) Paul Sylar's watch stopped at 7 minutes to 12 (midnight), which apparently was when it broke during the murder? of Chandra Suresh (Mohinder's dad), but did anyone else notice that it wasn't on his wrist when Charlie leftt for th eback room? Maybe it was just a flub. Maybe it means something.

Second, and more importantly, you know how Ted produces massive amounts of radiation when he is angry? It wasn't a neuclear bomb that will go off in New York, but his powers, that level the city, possibly the world. Claire must stop him somehow!
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Possibly. Maybe he's slowly melting down and no one but Claire can get close enough to him without frying. Save the cheerleader, save the world. That's a good bet.

Oh yeah, I'm pretty certain Hiro is now 6 months in the past to a year ion Charlie's past. Cause he apparently makes it to her birthday party. But does he divert the incident? That's the big question.

Just a thought I was having. I wonder if the reason Hiro develops Samurai skills is because of Sylar. What I mean by that, is Sylar could be chopping off the tops of people heads with his powers. Or maybe, he's doing it with a sharpened Samurai Sword, ala Kill Bill.
 
Digital Jedi said:
Just a thought I was having. I wonder if the reason Hiro develops Samurai skills is because of Sylar. What I mean by that, is Sylar could be chopping off the tops of people heads with his powers. Or maybe, he's doing it with a sharpened Samurai Sword, ala Kill Bill.
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I dont think that is it at all. He seemed to be pretty depressed about not being able to do more "physically" when they were knocked around by the Poker Players, and it was probably a case of "Ground Hog Day", where Bill Murray was able to play the piano and do ice sculptures like a pro in only "one day".

He just found something that he could do that was in keeping with his culture.
 
Digital Jedi said:
Oh yeah, I'm pretty certain Hiro is now 6 months in the past to a year ion Charlie's past. Cause he apparently makes it to her birthday party. But does he divert the incident? That's the big question.
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Yeah, remember, Charlie looked and talked as if she was somewhat familiar with him. Also, she said that a friend of hers gave her a book on Japanese about six months ago. Strangley, Ando said, "You learned this in one week?" But I don't remember her mentioning one week, but six months (I probably just missed it). But I know she said, she got the book for her Birthday, six months ago.

Also, we don't know from how far in the future Hiro came (wow, that's awkward English). It could be years (his accent is excellent). A friend and I were talking about how weird it would be for someone from the future to come and say to you, "You look differetn without the scar." We'd be, "You're from the future....wait a minute, what scar?" He suggested that it came from Paul (Sylar-played by Sean Bean, Borimier of Lord of the Rings) when Peter tries to rescue the Chearleader this Wednessday (another awkward sentence). I reminded ohim that as long as Peter is with the Claire-bear, he'll regenerate just fine.

Speaking of Claire... apparently Paul Sylar made a really creepy appearance on her myspace...Check it out...www.myspace.com/clairebennet
 
He wants to pick her bring and have a meeting of the minds? LOL!

I forget, Sci Fi all handle the time travel thing differently. Predestination paradoxes are different depending on the writers of series. So then, if there handling the series as if what's happened in the past already happened, then it's unlikely Hiro will be able to save her.
 
DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
Yeah, remember, Charlie looked and talked as if she was somewhat familiar with him. Also, she said that a friend of hers gave her a book on Japanese about six months ago. Strangley, Ando said, "You learned this in one week?" But I don't remember her mentioning one week, but six months (I probably just missed it). But I know she said, she got the book for her Birthday, six months ago.
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Ando asked her if she learned it all in one week.

She had the Book for Six Months, and she said she only started reading it a week ago, as her powers only started to get stronger it seems, most recently... Maybe as a result of the "Haitian"??!!!
 
Do you think the Haitian dude is an activator, like Synergy from StormWatch? or is perhaps more of a Cerebro (cant remember the mutant who has a Cerebro-like ability)? It seems he doesn't get to them until after the start manifesting abilities.

I was thinking about something. If Paul is mortally wounded, and not close enough to Claire to begin healing properly, then maybe that would be where he gets his scar. Then again, we've all been assuming he gets his scar from Sylar. For all we know, he could get it from Mohinder when he finally snaps. :D


Is Mohinder a "special", like his mom insinuated his sister was, and therefore the catalyst for his dads obsession? Or are the visions, which are clearly not normal visions, coming from this little boy. For a while there, I thought the little boy was just a young Mohinder.
 
Digital Jedi said:
Do you think the Haitian dude is an activator, like Synergy from StormWatch? or is perhaps more of a Cerebro (cant remember the mutant who has a Cerebro-like ability)? It seems he doesn't get to them until after the start manifesting abilities.
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It would seem as though he has a pretty wide range of abilities, since he can "mind-wipe", like he did to the Quarterback (I would even say that he caused the Blackout that took down the Cop in the Bar, by slowing the flow of blood to his Brain). So I would say that he can "enhance" Brain activity, to the point where he accelerates their latent powers to their "future" potential.
 
DJ: "If Paul is mortally wounded" I think you mean Peter. Paul is Sylar's first name. Yeah, I was just thinking yesterday that if Claire did not know that he could use her abilities, after Sylar slices him across the face (or whatever), she may take him for dead (which he might be) and take off running before he can completely heal by her powers, thus leaving a scar.

I agree that someone (maybe the haitian) is speeding up their powers, although, I think it has more to do with those marks everybody seems to have. Man I hope they don't go the alien abduction route, it's been doen to death. I'm thinking Mr. Bennet (can't find his first name anywhere) is doing it chemically, but it always seems to take two days to do it, that's why he needed the artist to take the drugs "one last time" to save his Claire-bear. I like y'all's take on the Haitian. I'm just trying to account for those marks.

As for the kid and Mohinder, yeah, I had to watch those parts like 3 times before I got it. The kid is Sanjog Iyer (ala the file found in the back of Chandra's (Mohinder's dad) desk drawer. Aparently his gift lets him manipulate dreams or some such. He seems to be taking Mohinder back to these crucial points in the past. However, where is he getting them? I doubt Sanjog was there in NY when Chandra was killed. Maybe he is "channeling" them to Mihinder from the afterlife?? I have been trying to track down the deities pictured in the file for a clue, but there are sooooooo many in the hindu religion). I guess we'll find out, next week in "Homecoming".

As for Hiro saving Charlie....I can't get over the fact that you hear a "ssssshinnnngggg" like a blade just before the blood trickles. I'm 99% it was Sylar (he must use a sword, it would take an incredible telekinetic to sever a skull cap that cleanly), but it is not beyond the realm of posibility, and would certainly bring an interesting drama into the season if, Hiro got a sword 6 months ago, learned how to use it and went after Sylar, got knocked for a loop in the back room, but got up (possibly with time slowed-not impossible for Sylar to have that power too) and try to take Sylar down, but at the last second, Syler teleported (note tape from first episode, somebody has/had that ability) and Hiro accidentally takes Charlie out. But then again, I have a wild and overly dramatic imagination when it comes to these shows. It was probably just Sylar.
 
If you go to the website, and read one of the webcomics, there's a specific deity mentioned that Mohinder recollects. I can't quite remember if it was relevant, but it may work in somehow.
 
First thing I thought of when Peter was looking at those pictures in the High School was that Sylar mstakes the stank cheerleader for Claire. I'd forgoten she'd taken credit for Claire's fire rescue. It's a shame she had to die, though I can't say I'm broken up about it, and it explains the painting of the dead blonde. It appears you modfiy the destiny of those paintings, but not stop it from happening.

Looks like we'll have to wait on when Peter gets that scar.

Um, can sombody tell me why you would arrest a guy laying on the ground in a puddle of his own blood? That was unnessary.

Now we have to wait and find out why the precog painted a picture of Proteus. :D
 
Great episode, as always. Still plenty to be resolved and we're only midway through the season. I'm curious at how long Peter's leech abilities last. I know we didn't get a proper sense of time when the cops came, but notice how he fixed his foot at the last minute?! If those powers were gone by then, that would REALLY hurt 8^D Similarly, how long was Claire away, I don't know if his abilities could bring him back from the dead.

Once Peter saw what was happening, why didn't he try to leech Sylar's abilities, or was he too far away? That would make for some interesting battles 8^D

Gotta dig the girl too with the "do as I say" ability. I wonder who these folks are and on whose side are they working with? Could Sylar be one of their "projects" gone evil?
 
Digital Jedi said:
First thing I thought of when Peter was looking at those pictures in the High School was that Sylar mstakes the stank cheerleader for Claire. I'd forgoten she'd taken credit for Claire's fire rescue. It's a shame she had to die, though I can't say I'm broken up about it, and it explains the painting of the dead blonde. It appears you modfiy the destiny of those paintings, but not stop it from happening.

Looks like we'll have to wait on when Peter gets that scar.

Um, can sombody tell me why you would arrest a guy laying on the ground in a puddle of his own blood? That was unnessary.

Now we have to wait and find out why the precog painted a picture of Proteus. :D
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I don't think they were the "real" Police (or at least not all of them...), and they were probably a shadow group used to "cover" removing Peter from the scene without causing too many questions about his disappearance.

Remember, the Haitian and the girl went after Sylar, so they were in the Area, and how else did they get those pictures of the other Dead "Heroes", if they didnt have people on the inside?
 
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