What Licences Would You Like to See on the VS. System? (Yu-Gi-Oh! Perhaps? :p)

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Had a discussion about this some time ago at the card shop with a friend. We had just heard rumors that possibly Hellboy and Spawn were going to make it to the Vs System sometime down the road. It lead to my friend saying that he hoped they didn't put "something stupid" on the system like the Transformers.

That set me off just a hair, as I had (ironically) just considered that possibility the very night before. And I thought it would be a great idea. So I told him so.

His responce was that 1) it wan't a comic book and 2) that there weren't enough characters that evolved in the Transformers Universe so that there could be multiple "drops" for the unique character cards. And then he said that VS. was exclusivly designed for comic book characters and didn't work with any other kind of licence.

Now I like this guy, he's cool and all and an intelligent person generally and there is no animositiy between us. But that is quite possible the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life!! What the crap does being a comic book have to do with the plability of a licence on the VS. System? And are the mechanics of the game so dependent on characters with evolutionary stages of thier life that you have to have plenty of those type of characters to build a set out of them?

Personaly, I would love a VS. Booster Set based on the Transformers and I think that being a comic has nothing to do with it.
  • You could have Characters like Optimus Prime, Megatron, Sound Wave, Omega Supreme and Unicron.
  • They could gradiate like this: 4 Cost "Megatron, Decepticon Leader" < 6 Cost "Megatron, Ruler of Cyberton" < 8 Cost "Megatron, Galvatron"
  • You could have Plot Twists like "Autobots, Transform!", "Autobots, Roll-Out!", "Deceptigons, Attack!" or a Starscream betrayal type card called "I Will Be Leader " and "Dinobots"
  • Equips like "Big Honking Laser Gun", "Energon Cubes" or "The Arc Transport"
  • You could have Locatons like "The Arc" (again), the various Deceptigon Headquarters, "Cybertron" and "Unicrons Head."
Suffice it to say the possibilities are endless and I know for a fact that, whether you like Transformers or not, if you play VS. then as soon as you look at the card effects you be like "ooh" and start building Deceptigon Decks or Sharkticon Army Rush Decks.

But to make this a discussion tell me who you would like to see. (And maybe we can light a fire under some of these slow VS threads ;))
 
well its comic based because they can keep releasing new teams and characters.

having that said, how many sets could you be able to make from the Transformer set?

probably 1 or 2 if maybe. and after that?

just look at how many sets are being relased for Marvel and DC.

the Indy set does have a lot of stuff to work with, spawn, connan, um ::cough:: noughty noughty ::cough::

etc.. etc.. lol
 
I'm sure they can sqeeze more than one or two sets out of the Transformers. But thats not really the point. The point is there are plenty of other licences from which to choose from. Not whether or not they can milk it for another ninety sets.

Now about that Star Wars set . . .
 
it has its own game.

also, indy set would have to have a contract with alot of people, i dont think they would want to do that.

look at all the nonsence they pull with yugi, vs, and SK, not to mention the crapola games they currently have.

getting more licenses would lead to their own downfall.

its more a Business move than game move.
 
Business sense and/or viability aside, if your friend's only criteria for a license appearing in Vs. is that it be a comic book property...I'm pretty sure Transformers has seen at least 2-3 comic adaptations.

I'm a yugioh player and not all too familiar with Vs. but if you can somehow manage to have several versions of Batman, who's never evolved, changed, whatever, then I don't think it would stretch the imagination too far to come up with different versions of the Autobots and Decepticons...like you demonstrated.

Batman almost caused me to make the switch to Vs. (not enought $$$ to do both games)...but if they came up with a Robotech set...I'd jump ship in a heartbeat. :D
 
batman does have different "evolutions"

Man has "Caped crusader" which in a point in time he was just that, then there was the whole "best detective" and then you have "dark knight" which in a way is the different comic eras of batman.

not to mention there were other batman's like Azrael @ batman which is seen in the new greenlantern corp set.

then you have the different robbins, SPoiler, Dick, etc...

then you have birds of prey, Oracle @ batgirl, Cassandra cain @ batgirl, Oracle, Spoiler etc...

oo and nightwing from teen titans and gotham knight Nightwing.

then you also have Joker @ many different faces.

Emperor Joker
laughin lunatic


etc....

what else what else, oo we got the Xmen and then the X-static. and then you also get the F4, Doom, Fearsome Five, Revenge squad, etc...

both comic creators have enough stuff to work with that it would make going a "indy" set a bit to problematic. just look at all the mess their pulling out with the 2 that they currently have.
 
Batman never "evolved", you're just talking about different writer's interpretations of the character. Bruce Wayne is the same Bruce Wayne as he was in Detective Comics...essentially. The character itself is still a regular guy who happens to have a lot of cool gadgets and is a detective, vigilante, martial artist, etc. No mutant abilities, no superpowers, no evolutionary stages.

My only point was that it should be as easy, if not easier, to find ways of printing multiple types of Autobots and Decepticons than it would be to print multiple types of a character that has stayed essentially the same for the last 60 years.

If you want to get into all the various re-imaginings and alternate realities of Batman, you would be here forever. But they're pretty much different characters based off of Batman, for all intents and purposes, not Batman himself.
 
Good point....

Drifting back to the Transformers a smidge, you could potentially setup a few other teams, you might be able to extend the constructicons and the dinobots into thier own teams. Or you might even be able to do the "alternate" teams when they all went up into space again to that one place and had all the space ships. 8^D
 
its true, its also true he doesnt have many different cards aswell.

superman has aton more cards than him. Doomsday only has 1, luther has like 2.

all the cards have minimal, they just keep adding as more comics come out, and more adventures get put up.

they may or maynot do Indy, for all we know they may even toss in some shonen jump manga in there . lol
 
The one advantage is that since the VS system is a little more organized around the teams, you can add as many teams as you can get together and have a decent combination with.

Heck, maybe we'll see some Capcom and SNK teams coming out. Imagine that one....I have my Sentinel Mark IV and Sentinel Mark III team attack your Blanka, Hyper Fighter Blue... 8^D
 
Adding more licences to the game would not lead to thier own downfall, KrazyKid. The "crappola" games they have will have nothing to do with with thier success in another TCG.

It's VS.

People will play it.

Do you realise how many people playing this game right now have no idea who ninety percent of these characters are? And now they've released a Team Affiliation that includes the Qwardians. I've seen the new set. I will be explaining what the Anti-Matter universe is for weeks. People play games based in the game play, predominently. Not because they think know who JeanPaul Valley is.

The only part the licences play is to draw people to the game. The gameplay is what makes people stay.

Besides, the VS. System was set up to include other licences. Why do people keep thinking that it was only made exclusivly for Marvel and DC? Do you really think they were not planning on expanding beyond these two licences? If you do, then you are clearly not a buisnessman, or at least, not a very good one. :)
 
Jdos, what KrazyKid was trying to say was that the characters in this game are turned based. A 5 cost character cannot come out until turn five. Lower cost characters are less powerful than thier higher cost counterparts. So what they have done is taken a handful of characters and made low cost versions (based on an older version of that character) and a high cost version (based on a more recent version).

So they have a 3 cost Batman who looks suspiciously like the early Silver Age blue-grey/Adam West Bats (although not as campy) and then later on in the match you can bring out the 5 cost Bats who looks a lot darker in color and is beating the crap out of some hooligan. (Defintly not campy)

They've got a low cost Wolverine in his brown and yellow costume, a higher cost one in his yellow costume and an even higher one in his "enter the gay matrix" black leather costume.

Then they split the characters version up between affiliations. Superman exists as one Character Card in Gotham Knights, one in Darkseid's Elite (the brainwashed superman) and six in Team Superman (red, blue, man of steel, kal-el, clark kent, and the long-haired-black-tights-returned-from-the-dead-bon-jovi-superman)

They have not yet ventured into the Elsworld Universes yet. But for right now, characters are considered "unique" just like they would be in reality, so you can only have one version of the same person on the field at one time. So "Dick Grayson, Robin" will KO when "Dick Grayson, Nightwing" comes into play.


EDIT: Interestingly, characters like Scarlet Spider or Superman Red allow for multiple versions of a character (Spidey and Supes repsectivlely) to be on the feild at the same time.
 
Jdos said:
My only point was that it should be as easy, if not easier, to find ways of printing multiple types of Autobots and Decepticons than it would be to print multiple types of a character that has stayed essentially the same for the last 60 years.
Which is why I suggested the different versions of Megatron. He's only really evolved once, but he could have a low cost version as a robot, a middle cost version as a gun and a high cost version as Galvatron (robot or cannon).

Oh yeah, I know all about the Star Wars TCG. I have a box in my "room" thats been sitting there unopened since the mid-nineties. Anybody know anyone that plays it? Not me. Would anyone really object if one came out on the VS System? No, I mean seriously. Would you (meaning a avid player and consumer of the game VS.) abslolutly refuse to play or purchase a Star Wars adaptation of VS. based solely on the fact that you don't like and/or know the Star Wars Universe very well, even though the game based effects are awsome and your could consistantly build a deck type that could spank your opponent's Teen Titans/Doom/Sentinel Curve everytime? If you said yes, then your lying . . .to yourself. ;)

EDIT: I don't even know who Deep Six are, and I've been running a Deep Six Deck for months now.
 
Deep Six isnt that the opposite of "Forever People"

anywho. i understand completly, i only play an x-static deck.

and yea, i really understand, if they did it wouldnt go outside the comic relm, yea you see a few Transformer comics, but you also see simpson comics, Archfie comics, dragon ball z comics, etc.....

maybe they just wanted the 2 top americian comic publishers to go up head to head.

who knows. me business wise i would look for the next big empire and combine it with the game.

not to mention they still have the Freestyle engine flying around.

i wouldnt mind poping a matti deck vs. a Naruto deck. lol

it would be funny.
 
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