After The Struggle Question?

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wesker99

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ON the card it says destroy all monster cards that were involved in damage calculation at the end step. Now what i want to know is could i attack a stronger monster like Vampire Lord vs Blue Eyes White Dragon i would still take the damage but would BEWD be destroyed? One more thing is could i attack a monster in defense mode like Slate Warrior vs Big Shield Gardna even though BSG isn't destroyed same with SW, would they both be destroyed due to ATS's effect? Thanks!
 
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originaly called "after genocide".
yes that would work, i think that's the whole point of that card:
attack stronger to kill it!(you die and take damage offcourse :) )
 
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wesker99 said:
Sweet thanks! Are there any cards to get rid of the damage?
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From the UDE FAQ:

"Even if the Battle Damage is reduced to 0 by the effect of "Waboku", "Kuriboh", "Sanga of the Thunder", etc., both the attacking and defending monster are still destroyed during the End Step by this card's effect."

There's 3 right off the bat. I can also think of "Hallowed Life Barrier" and "Spirit Barrier".
 
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John Danker said:
A few ideas here are to activate Waboku, then attack (damage calculation happens but is you take none) or to activate Waboku, then attack each monster with Azura Priest, then activate After the Struggle destroying all monsters (unless another effect destroys one of them first)
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Interesting combo :D, I like that. Very original, did you think of it?

After the Struggle can only be activated in Main Phase 1 though.

However, interesting combo.
 
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StRiKe_NiNjA said:
Interesting combo :D, I like that. Very original, did you think of it?

After the Struggle can only be activated in Main Phase 1 though.

However, interesting combo.
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Thank you for the correction on the proper activation of After the Struggle. It's not a card I've played yet in a deck myself, I should have done my homework <blush>

I'm sure someone in the past has thought up this combo. Personally I hadn't heard it before I thought about it though. Few combos or decks are original / new, just original / new to me, you, or us!
 
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StRiKe_NiNjA said:
Interesting combo :D, I like that. Very original, did you think of it?

After the Struggle can only be activated in Main Phase 1 though.

However, interesting combo.
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Just wanted to point out, in case there is misunderstanding, Waboku can still be activated in that scenario. Combo still works just the phases Waboku is played in all have to be Batle Phase or sooner. :) But of course thats what you meant, right?
 
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Digital Jedi said:
Just wanted to point out, in case there is misunderstanding, Waboku can still be activated in that scenario. Combo still works just the phases Waboku is played in all have to be Batle Phase or sooner. :) But of course thats what you meant, right?
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I believe that's what I stated, activate Waboku, then attack.

I did, however, state the timing of activating After the Struggle incorrectly.
 
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Yeah, I was only trying to clarify for someone reading and maybe misundersanding. But then again I'm sick and half asleep and still have a ten month old to take care of today, so I'm not fireing on all thrusters, if you know what I mean. :p
 
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I always thought there was no distinction between the attacker or the attacked with this card. "All monsters involved in Damage Calculation" would infer that as long as a monster created damage, and a monster "took" (or gave, in the chance the defense was greater than attack) damage from the attacking monster, then they were both involved.

I think this card is better used against Direct Attack Deck Strategies if you are trying to keep your monsters alive, and that's pretty hard to plan for. I know this card will more than likely never leave "my" binder, as the payoff could be great, the cost has left too much to chance.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
I always thought there was no distinction between the attacker or the attacked with this card. "All monsters involved in Damage Calculation" would infer that as long as a monster created damage, and a monster "took" (or gave, in the chance the defense was greater than attack) damage from the attacking monster, then they were both involved.

I think this card is better used against Direct Attack Deck Strategies if you are trying to keep your monsters alive, and that's pretty hard to plan for. I know this card will more than likely never leave "my" binder, as the payoff could be great, the cost has left too much to chance.
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Well, Waboku never stops damage calculation so both monsters would still be destroyed. The scenario in mind, however, is using little bitty ATK monsters and slamming them into higher attack monsters on a turn After the Struggle/Genocide was played. Thereby destroying yours and thier monsters but taking no Battle Damage due to Waboku.
 
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All that is required is that the monster be involved in damage calculaton, weather there be no damage, damage taken, or damage recieved. All monster regardless of who's side of the field they are on are destroyed that are involved in damage calculation.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
Just wanted to point out, in case there is misunderstanding, Waboku can still be activated in that scenario. Combo still works just the phases Waboku is played in all have to be Batle Phase or sooner. :) But of course thats what you meant, right?
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Ah, please you flatter me. I understand the combo with the upmost superior intellegence... See? I don't even know half the words I am saying. :D

LoL, but I really do understand the combo.
 
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