LordLight2
New Member
So I started thinking and realized that we need to get a discussion going... so here's today topic!
Looking at the current ban list, and thinking of the current format, what card do you think no longer truly belongs on the ban/limited/semi-limited list?
Magician of Faith just came off the ban list after being on for so long. But why? Simple answer, the format has changed so much that she is just too slow and getting a magic (err...SPELL card..) back from the graveyard is nice, most decks really don't care. So more than likely, we will probably see her up to three copies before too long.
The card I wonder if it shouldn't come off the ban list is Cyber-Stein. And for those that don't remember:
Cyber-Stein
Dark
Level 2
700/500
"Pay 5000 life points. Special summon 1 Fusion monster from your Fusion deck in face up Attack position"
Now back in the day, this card was to be feared for it's OTK capabilities. But now? With a limit of 15 monsters in the "Extra" deck and most of that taken up by Excced and Synchro monsters, unless the deck is built for it they don't contain Fusion monsters. And most that are, require them to be special summoned the correct way. The Elemental Hero monsters, Ultimate Axon Kicker, etc. and of course if you're using these monsters, you will have built a deck around them.
Now of course some current decks DO contain Fusion monsters so Instant Fusion can be used, but most of those are NOT ones you would use for Cyber-Stein and in fact, they are MOSTLY used to get Exceed monsters out faster. So what good is Cyber-Stein in today's current format?
Well, we could still attempt the OTK, but there are a LOT of cards that could stop that cold. Effect Veiler, Swift Scarecrow, and so many Exceeds I'm not even going to attempt to list them all. What will ultimately happen is, you'll pay 5000 LP's, and then get Effect Veilered. So not only have you paid over half your LP's for NO gain, but you also have a weak monster in attack position awaiting to be attacked. I could see it being mained in some decks at the big tournament level for a little while, but in all honesty, I see it being pushed back to the sidelines and the realms of a fun deck.
So does this truly deserve to be banned? I don't think so. It is a powerful card, but then again, so was Injection Fairy Lily, Exiled Force and Jinzo, and each of these were limited back in the day. But now they are all at three. Time and format changes altered their usability. As I believe it has for Cyber-Stein...
Thoughts on different cards?
Looking at the current ban list, and thinking of the current format, what card do you think no longer truly belongs on the ban/limited/semi-limited list?
Magician of Faith just came off the ban list after being on for so long. But why? Simple answer, the format has changed so much that she is just too slow and getting a magic (err...SPELL card..) back from the graveyard is nice, most decks really don't care. So more than likely, we will probably see her up to three copies before too long.
The card I wonder if it shouldn't come off the ban list is Cyber-Stein. And for those that don't remember:
Cyber-Stein
Dark
Level 2
700/500
"Pay 5000 life points. Special summon 1 Fusion monster from your Fusion deck in face up Attack position"
Now back in the day, this card was to be feared for it's OTK capabilities. But now? With a limit of 15 monsters in the "Extra" deck and most of that taken up by Excced and Synchro monsters, unless the deck is built for it they don't contain Fusion monsters. And most that are, require them to be special summoned the correct way. The Elemental Hero monsters, Ultimate Axon Kicker, etc. and of course if you're using these monsters, you will have built a deck around them.
Now of course some current decks DO contain Fusion monsters so Instant Fusion can be used, but most of those are NOT ones you would use for Cyber-Stein and in fact, they are MOSTLY used to get Exceed monsters out faster. So what good is Cyber-Stein in today's current format?
Well, we could still attempt the OTK, but there are a LOT of cards that could stop that cold. Effect Veiler, Swift Scarecrow, and so many Exceeds I'm not even going to attempt to list them all. What will ultimately happen is, you'll pay 5000 LP's, and then get Effect Veilered. So not only have you paid over half your LP's for NO gain, but you also have a weak monster in attack position awaiting to be attacked. I could see it being mained in some decks at the big tournament level for a little while, but in all honesty, I see it being pushed back to the sidelines and the realms of a fun deck.
So does this truly deserve to be banned? I don't think so. It is a powerful card, but then again, so was Injection Fairy Lily, Exiled Force and Jinzo, and each of these were limited back in the day. But now they are all at three. Time and format changes altered their usability. As I believe it has for Cyber-Stein...
Thoughts on different cards?