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My opponent has 1 dark necrofear and 1 jinzo on the field in face up attack position. I have 1 dark necrofear on the field in face up attack poistion.

Question: If I attack my opponent's dark necrofear with my dark necrofear, can I take control of my opponent's jinzo at the end of the turn.

My friend argues that when my dark necrofear resolves and take control of his jinzo, he can then resovles his dark necrofear and take control of his jinzo again.
But I think I can pass my priority during end phrase and let my opponent resolve the effect of his dark necrofear first, then afterward, I can take control of his jinzo, but I am not 100% sure.

Thanks in advance. ^^
 
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if your opponent's Dark Necrofear can't activate if it wasn't destroyed....

But, if both Dark Necrofears are destroyed in the same turn you are forced to activate it's effect first. The reason for this is because Dark Necrofear is because in the end phase you must resolve all of your effects before yur opponent can resolve theirs. Dark Necrofear is spell speed 1 so you can't chain to your opponent's Dark Necrofear. Basically because it's spell speed one you can't chose when to activate it.
 
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Your reasoning is a little flawed here.

This isn't a SEGOC event that happens. It's 2 events that have to resolve during the end phase. Now, this is where being the turn player isn't such a good thing. You need to resolve your effect first, or pass to your opponent. Ok, well enough. BUT, your opponent now has the same choice... resolve or pass back to you. So, he can choose to pass back to you meaning now you MUST resolve your effect.

So in the above example, (if your opponent is smart), he'll force you to resolve your "Dark Necrofear" first meaning you take control of his "Jinzo". Then when his "Dark Necrofear" resolves, they re-take control of "Jinzo". So your friend was right.
 
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Ok.. just a question..
Dark Necrofear
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by removing 3 Fiend-Type monsters in your Graveyard from play. When this card is destroyed as a result of battle or by your opponent's card effect, it is treated as an Equip Spell Card at the end of the turn. Equip 1 of your opponent's monsters with this card. As long as it is equipped with this card, you control the equipped monster.
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When you both destroy each other's dark necrofear, how does your friend target his OWN jinzo? Your effect has not resolved yet, and dark necrofear must target an opponent's monster right? so technically you have no monster on the field yet, and he shouldn't be able to activate his effect right?
 
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lzy3 said:
Ok.. just a question..


When you both destroy each other's dark necrofear, how does your friend target his OWN jinzo? Your effect has not resolved yet, and dark necrofear must target an opponent's monster right? so technically you have no monster on the field yet, and he shouldn't be able to activate his effect right?
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They do not happen in a chain. Each effect resolves separately.
 
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They do not resolve in a chain. Dark Necrofear just needs to resolve at some point during the End Phase (in a similar way that Mirage of Nightmare just needs to resolve at some point during the Standby Phase).
 
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Dlanaan said:
They do not resolve in a chain. Dark Necrofear just needs to resolve at some point during the End Phase (in a similar way that Mirage of Nightmare just needs to resolve at some point during the Standby Phase).
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Ok thanks. What are the card effects that do not chain like this? I'm still not very sure why/how this works..
 
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lzy3 said:
Ok thanks. What are the card effects that do not chain like this? I'm still not very sure why/how this works..
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Generally effects that (must) resolve in a phase, but do not have a specific trigger for when they activate other than that do not resolve in a chain.

So things that happen during the Standby phase are all separate, things that happen during the end phase are separate.

On the other hand, if 2 effects were to be triggered by "Drawing" in the draw phase, since the Drawing of a card is a specific event: those cards will chain (provided they are chainable, some effects are just continuous even though they look like they have a trigger)


So basically, assume that the cards are separate during the end phase.
 
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