Heavy Storm Vs: Compulsory and Call of the Haunted

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Javario

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Hi all,

Well I had a situation earlier today. He had no problem with what I did, and I didn't either. But I'm not sure if it's completely legal....


If they heavy storm and I activate call, then chain to call by using compulsory evacuation device. Is that legal?

I think I'm letting heavy's effect resolve on call, then allowing another chain, and since there was no chain to call, chain with compulsary evacuation device.

Someone let me know if I'm right or not.....

-Javario

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This would be legal, but the target for coumpulsory evacuation device can't be the one you are targeting for CotH because the monster targeted by CotH is not on the field yet. Chain block looks like.

Heave Storm -> Call of the Haunted -> Compulsory Evac Device.

When you activate Comp Evac Device, the monster targeted by CotH is not in the field yet because It has not resolved yet.

EDIT: If you are planing to activate Comp Evac Device while CotH is resolving, then this is not legal because you can't activate any effect during resolution of a chain block.
 
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I think there is an easier way to explain this so you can understand a little better.

You can only have 1 chain at 1 time. What you're attempting is to have 2 chains at the same time, you cannot do this.

The chain would end up being:

Link 1: Heavy Storm
Link 2: Call of the Haunted

If you were to activate Compulsory right now, it would go on the chain as link 3 and resolve first in the chain resolution, you would have to target another monster on the field.

If not the chain resolves like so:

Link 2: Call of the Haunted resolves bringing a monster to the field.
Link 1: Heavy Storm resolves destroying all m/t cards (including Call of the Haunted) when Call is destroyed, the monster is sent back to the graveyard.

The next chain would be Compulsory Evacuation Device by itself, you see... if you activate it after the first chain resolves, the monster is no longer there to be targetted by Compulsory. That's what was trying to be explained above, I just feel that there is a better way to explain it.
 
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reguarding

o.k, so let me get this right....


I can't chain call of the haunted off their heavy storm then activate compulsary on my monster? I know I could book of moon my monster but I can't compulsary?
 
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Javario said:
o.k, so let me get this right....


I can't chain call of the haunted off their heavy storm then activate compulsary on my monster? I know I could book of moon my monster but I can't compulsary?
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No, you can't Book of Moon your monster if you are playing BoM instead of CED for the same reason above (you don't have a monster to target because CotH has not resolved yet OR you can't start a new chain when a chain block is resolving).

The only purpose of you chaining CotH on Heavy Storm is if you target Jinzo, Witch of the Black Forest, or Sangan because you will be able to use their effect. For Jinzo, he will stay on the field because he is already negating CotH by the time Heavy Storm destroys CotH.
 
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hey,

well your right it makes perfect sense. I think it was more of me want it to be that way more than what I've learned on the rules. I know Jinzo is the perfect reason, and witch and sangan of course. What about thing in the crater? I think it works as witch and sangan am I right? Wouldn't I be able to use his effect? Or, what If I was playing with Sorceror of Dark magic, I don't think I can but you never know with alot of these crazy rules out there.

-Javario
 
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Javario said:
hey,

well your right it makes perfect sense. I think it was more of me want it to be that way more than what I've learned on the rules. I know Jinzo is the perfect reason, and witch and sangan of course. What about thing in the crater? I think it works as witch and sangan am I right? Wouldn't I be able to use his effect? Or, what If I was playing with Sorceror of Dark magic, I don't think I can but you never know with alot of these crazy rules out there.

-Javario
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The Thing in the Crater will work because CotH destroying it is the last thing to happened. Sorceror of Dark Magic can't be special summoned by CotH because it is a NOMI monster.
 
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Would it have worked had he Chained Compulsory Evac. Device First.... then used call??? that way upon resolution (in reverse) the monster would be there and it COULD go back to the hand?
Am i correct in assuming that it could work in that order???

1. Heavy Storm
2. Comp. Evac. Dev.
3. Call of the Haunted
 
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kingpinopie said:
Would it have worked had he Chained Compulsory Evac. Device First.... then used call??? that way upon resolution (in reverse) the monster would be there and it COULD go back to the hand?
Am i correct in assuming that it could work in that order???

1. Heavy Storm
2. Comp. Evac. Dev.
3. Call of the Haunted
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No, it won't work because Comp Evac Dev has nothing to target when it was activated.

Because Comp Evac Dev targets the monster it will return when it resolves during activation, not resolution.
 
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Raigekick said:
The only purpose of you chaining CotH on Heavy Storm is if you target Jinzo, Witch of the Black Forest, or Sangan because you will be able to use their effect. For Jinzo, he will stay on the field because he is already negating CotH by the time Heavy Storm destroys CotH.
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Spell Canceller too! ;)
 
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Raigekick said:
No, you can't Book of Moon your monster if you are playing BoM instead of CED for the same reason above (you don't have a monster to target because CotH has not resolved yet OR you can't start a new chain when a chain block is resolving).

The only purpose of you chaining CotH on Heavy Storm is if you target Jinzo, Witch of the Black Forest, or Sangan because you will be able to use their effect. For Jinzo, he will stay on the field because he is already negating CotH by the time Heavy Storm destroys CotH.
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don't forget about skull mark ladybug :D
 
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