[judge-yu] D.D. Survivor - Stolen and then removed

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Hi,
I got a question that raised up at a tournament this weekend.

Here the situation:
Player A got a face-up D.D. Survivor and a face-up D.D. Assailant on his side of the field. Its Player Bs turn and he activates Snatch Steal, getting D.D. Survivor and makes an attack on D.D. Assailant. Both monsters will be removed, but will the Survivor return to Player As side at the end of the turn?

My oppinion is that the Survivor will stay in the RFG-Pile cause the text says that it have to be removed on the owners side of the field to trigger his effect.

"If this face-up card on your side of the field is removed from play..."

thx for answer
greetz
Xe0


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Answer:

"D.D. Survivor" does not care who is controlling it when it is removed from play.

Answering the situation, during Player B's End Phase "D.D. Survivor" will be Special Summoned onto Player A's (its owner) side of the field, as instructed in its text.

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Bummer. This exact thing happend yesterday. Seems like I got it wrong.

Xe0, if you're the guy in flight 3: sorry about that.

I was thrown off by the whole "on your side of the field" that is printed on the card...
 
So the "On your side of the field" is more completely worthless text from a bad translation? I do so love this game sometimes. :)
 
Yes. As I said (and no one believed me, or just didn't care XD :D) "you" and "your" just mean the card's controller.
-pssvr
 
"This face-up cards on your side of the field."

Not "This face-up card on the owner's side of the field." It's just a redundant statement. Like "When your opponent declares an attack with a monster..." Like he's gonna declare an attack with a kumquat.
 
Digital Jedi said:
"This face-up cards on your side of the field."

Not "This face-up card on the owner's side of the field." It's just a redundant statement. Like "When your opponent declares an attack with a monster..." Like he's gonna declare an attack with a kumquat.
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Right, it just seems like extremely poor wording (like that is anything new). If the D. D. Survivor is face-up where would he be other than your side of the field or your opponent's? Like I said poor translation. (Or Curtis is wrong again. Like that would be new either.) :)
 
anthonyj said:
Right, it just seems like extremely poor wording (like that is anything new). If the D. D. Survivor is face-up where would he be other than your side of the field or your opponent's? Like I said poor translation. (Or Curtis is wrong again. Like that would be new either.) :)
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Shh! He might hear you!!
Heh. Well, it is poor wording, or it's a matter of being in the grave. And don't tell me monsters can't have effects in the grave. Elemental Mistress Doriado has an effect in the grave, and Big Shield Gardna has an effect while face down.
-pssvr
 
Wasnt there a statement a while back that said, "As long as this card is face-up on the field, he is always on your side of the field", meaning, even if he changes control, the new controller is now the owner of the "your side of the field" statement.
 
So besides DD Survivor, what are some other cards have "your side of the field" or "your blah blah blah" that refer to and apply to the owner and not the controller. And I don't mean cards like Sangan. Oh, how about Stealth Bird? We know that flip effects go to the controller, not the owner; but since Stealth Bird is not a flip effect, does the damage always go to the owner's opponent?
Or what about Solar Flare Dragon?
 
No, I just mean to say everyone is looking at the text all wrong.


If this face-up card on your side of the field is removed from play, this card is Special Summoned to the owner's side of the field during the End Phase.


So its on my side of the field right?

Now it gets removed from play for whatever reason.

Now the effect says to Special Summon it to the owner's side of the field.

So for what reason exactly are we thinking that it goes to the previous controllers side?

Really guys, everyone is caugt up with the "on your side of the field" text and COMPLETELY ignoring the "Special Summon to the owner's side of the field" part. The owner of the card is a constant that can never be changed by any effect. I'm slightly confused how one could think "on your side of the field" could change that.
 
Well, can't speak for everybody, but the reason I'm focused on the "your side of the field" is because I thought "they" were wording the card to avoid confusion from previous cards; like Last Will and Vampire Lord, which require the owner's monster on the owner's side to be sent to the owner's etc...

and for you aspiring writers, this topic (control of/when) sounds like it would make a great article/tip/strategy...thing. Every now and then a Snatch Steal/Interdimensional Matter Transporter question comes up...
 
It does in the Japanese version.

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Re: Vampire Lord.

The reason for Vampire Lord's issue is the "opponent's card effect".
 
But they do have a tendancy to rule card effects based on thier translation rather then on their OCG counterparts. How long were Blast with Chain and Metalmorph treated as Equip Spell Cards based on thier text alone? There are others that I can't think of right now. But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the question were sent to the Judges list that they would rule it based on the text.
 
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