I'm going back a fair ways with this one. Last I knew, and this was a while ago,
Horn of Heaven or Solemn Judgment could not stop the special summon of a monster
from an outside card effect, such as Monster Reborn. That in order to stop that
summon, you had to stop the Monster Reborn itself. Is this still correct, or is
this completely outdated?
Jason
Level 2
Answer:
This is unchanged.
"Solemn Judgment" can be used to negate the effect of a Spell or Trap
Card and then destroy the card. Since it doesn't matter what the Spell
or Trap Card was going to do you won't have any problems explaining this one.
"Horn of Heaven" cannot negate Spell or Trap Cards. It is decidedly more limited
in terms of what it can do against Special Summons. The Special Summon of a monster
with the help of another card cannot be negated by "Horn of Heaven." So you cannot
use "Horn of Heaven" against a monster Special Summoned by "Monster Reborn,"
"Polymerization," "Premature Burial," "Call of the Haunted," "Elegant Egotist,"
"Fusion Gate," a Ritual Spell Card, "Giant Rat," "Mystic Tomato," "Marauding
Captain," "Spear Cretin," "Cyber Jar," etc.
You CAN use "Horn of Heaven" to negate a Special Summon that was
achieved using the monster's own effect such as "Dark Necrofear," "Gate
Guardian," "The Fiend Megacyber," "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End,"
"Archlord Zerato," etc.
"Solemn Judgement" can be used to negate and destroy "Polymerization,"
"Monster Reborn," "Elegant Egotist," "Ritual Spell Cards," "Call of the Haunted,"
etc. "Solemn Judgment" has no issue with negating Spell and Trap Cards.
But if you wait and allow these cards to resolve and Special Summon the monster
"Solemn Judgment" will no longer be able to negate the Summon.
So what does this mean? It means that if the monster is Special Summoned by
ANOTHER card's effect and you don't want that monster Special Summoned,
you need to stop the card that will cause the monster to be Special Summoned
in the first place.
Naturally you can use "Horn of Heaven" and "Solemn Judgment" to negate
a Normal Summon or Flip-Summon of a monster. If the Flip-Summon negated was
that of a monster with a flip-effect, the flip-effect will not activate. The
same is true of negating the Normal Summon of a monster that has an effect
that activates when the monster is successfully Normal Summoned. If you negate
the Normal Summon the monster's effect will not activate because it was not
successfully Normal Summoned.
So if my opponent was to Normal Summon a "Marauding Captain," activating
"Solemn Judgement" or "Horn of Heaven" in order to negate the Summon would
prevent the Special Summon effect from activating. (This is because the
Marauding Captain would not be successfully Summoned)
If my opponent Flip-Summons a "Cyber Jar," I can use "Horn of Heaven" or
"Solemn Judgement" to negate the Flip-Summon. I cannot wait and use either
of these cards against the monsters that would be Special Summoned from the
efect of the "Cyber Jar." I need to stop the "Cyber Jar" itself.
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Official UDE Netrep
CurtisSchultz_Netrep@hotmail.com
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Horn of Heaven or Solemn Judgment could not stop the special summon of a monster
from an outside card effect, such as Monster Reborn. That in order to stop that
summon, you had to stop the Monster Reborn itself. Is this still correct, or is
this completely outdated?
Jason
Level 2
Answer:
This is unchanged.
"Solemn Judgment" can be used to negate the effect of a Spell or Trap
Card and then destroy the card. Since it doesn't matter what the Spell
or Trap Card was going to do you won't have any problems explaining this one.
"Horn of Heaven" cannot negate Spell or Trap Cards. It is decidedly more limited
in terms of what it can do against Special Summons. The Special Summon of a monster
with the help of another card cannot be negated by "Horn of Heaven." So you cannot
use "Horn of Heaven" against a monster Special Summoned by "Monster Reborn,"
"Polymerization," "Premature Burial," "Call of the Haunted," "Elegant Egotist,"
"Fusion Gate," a Ritual Spell Card, "Giant Rat," "Mystic Tomato," "Marauding
Captain," "Spear Cretin," "Cyber Jar," etc.
You CAN use "Horn of Heaven" to negate a Special Summon that was
achieved using the monster's own effect such as "Dark Necrofear," "Gate
Guardian," "The Fiend Megacyber," "Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End,"
"Archlord Zerato," etc.
"Solemn Judgement" can be used to negate and destroy "Polymerization,"
"Monster Reborn," "Elegant Egotist," "Ritual Spell Cards," "Call of the Haunted,"
etc. "Solemn Judgment" has no issue with negating Spell and Trap Cards.
But if you wait and allow these cards to resolve and Special Summon the monster
"Solemn Judgment" will no longer be able to negate the Summon.
So what does this mean? It means that if the monster is Special Summoned by
ANOTHER card's effect and you don't want that monster Special Summoned,
you need to stop the card that will cause the monster to be Special Summoned
in the first place.
Naturally you can use "Horn of Heaven" and "Solemn Judgment" to negate
a Normal Summon or Flip-Summon of a monster. If the Flip-Summon negated was
that of a monster with a flip-effect, the flip-effect will not activate. The
same is true of negating the Normal Summon of a monster that has an effect
that activates when the monster is successfully Normal Summoned. If you negate
the Normal Summon the monster's effect will not activate because it was not
successfully Normal Summoned.
So if my opponent was to Normal Summon a "Marauding Captain," activating
"Solemn Judgement" or "Horn of Heaven" in order to negate the Summon would
prevent the Special Summon effect from activating. (This is because the
Marauding Captain would not be successfully Summoned)
If my opponent Flip-Summons a "Cyber Jar," I can use "Horn of Heaven" or
"Solemn Judgement" to negate the Flip-Summon. I cannot wait and use either
of these cards against the monsters that would be Special Summoned from the
efect of the "Cyber Jar." I need to stop the "Cyber Jar" itself.
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Curtis Schultz
Official UDE Netrep
CurtisSchultz_Netrep@hotmail.com
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