[judge-yu] IMPORTANT re: card legality dates

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I wanted to give everyone a heads up on an IMPORTANT change to the rules regarding
card legality dates.

Effective with The Lost Millennium, cards will be legal for use as soon as the set
is out, EXCEPT for premier events. Premier events are things like regionals,
nationals, Shonen Jump Championships, etc. Those events will continue to have a
specific legality date for new sets. Those dates will be available here:
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/op/policy/yugioh_policy.aspx

This means you can use the cards as soon as you get them for Duelist King
tournaments, Duelist League, Hobby Store League (once it's up & running again),
and other "local" tournaments. But for the big events, there will be specific
legality dates enforced.

(Exception: if a sealed pack tournament is run as part of a premier event like
a Shonen Jump Championship, and the latest packs were included, obviously they
would be legal for that portion of the premier event.)

Enjoy!

Kevin Tewart
Game Designer
UDE Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D Lead
Upper Deck Entertainment

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/?forum=judge-yu
 
Could they continue to make life any more confusing for the community?

Soon we're only going to be able to play tournament level YGO with the latest cards on every other blue moon after the first rain of Spring on an odd year that follows a year with a 6 in it.
 
bishop said:
Could they continue to make life any more confusing for the community?

Soon we're only going to be able to play tournament level YGO with the latest cards on every other blue moon after the first rain of Spring on an odd year that follows a year with a 6 in it.
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You only have to remember one key thing to understand all of this ... don't use White Card Sleeves after Labor Day. See?
 
djp952 said:
You only have to remember one key thing to understand all of this ... don't use White Card Sleeves after Labor Day. See?
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i dont get it about the white sleeves what's wrong with white sleeves? i have white sleeves punk!
 
Try this link for a reason (if you TRULY don't get it, that is). Of course, it's a joke, but then, I think, we are all looking at this craziness as a joke too.
 
What I think is funnier though (but I have to admit this starts into way off topic here) is that you called Mike a punk. LOL!

Punk. LOL!
 
bishop said:
What I think is funnier though (but I have to admit this starts into way off topic here) is that you called Mike a punk. LOL!

Punk. LOL!
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I've been called worse :D Recently, too! LOL.

And to get things back on topic after I so rudely skewed this entire thread ... here's what I think about this change in rules.

I think that it does prove to some extent that UDE *is* listening to people. So many folks got so bent out of shape over the delay in legality, this is the proverbial 'bone' being thrown their way. Wanna use 3x the most broken cards in TLM (are there any?) ... fine, but not when the big boys and girls and playing, and CERTAINLY not when Konami might be watching.

With the recent changes in the game to release far fewer 'br0ken' cards, I don't see this as being a really big deal. More like a warning that nothing ban-worthy is coming down the pipe for a long time.

What this is lacking is an option for the smaller, local, sanctioned events to decide whether or not they want to use the legal date or not. Similar to the Advanced/Traditional format, I would like to see this left to the TO's discretion.
 
One benefit this will provide is that players can use cards from the new sets in a tournament environment to test out how they might work in their decks before a big event. Otherwise, they are stuck with the random play-testing they might do with their friends or online with YVD and such.

The biggest drawback I can see is that different stores in the same area start selling the new sets at different dates. This could put those players who buy at the slower-to-release stores at a disadvantage.

For example, we buy most of our cards at our local retail store (coughwalmartcough) as we seem to always be there for some reason or another. We don't generally buy them from the hobby store that hosts the tournament as it is about 25 minutes away and we only make that trip on Saturdays for the tournament. So our retail store might be slow in releasing the cards while another city or that hobby store might release them earlier, thus giving advantage to some of the other players.
 
That IS going to be the biggest problem as far as releasing new sets. Not everyone will have access to the cards at the same time, rather than not purchasing them, but they are available.

Plus, unless the Ban/Limited List is furnished in advance, you are going to have a mess to clean-up when it does (would have loved to have played with 3 Phoenix!!!) trying to tell players that a card is restricted to 1 or 2 when they've been used to playing it without restriction for some time.
 
UDEbot said:
I wanted to give everyone a heads up on an IMPORTANT change to the rules regarding
card legality dates.

Effective with The Lost Millennium, cards will be legal for use as soon as the set
is out, EXCEPT for premier events. Premier events are things like regionals,
nationals, Shonen Jump Championships, etc. Those events will continue to have a
specific legality date for new sets. Those dates will be available here:
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/op/policy/yugioh_policy.aspx

This means you can use the cards as soon as you get them for Duelist King
tournaments, Duelist League, Hobby Store League (once it's up & running again),
and other "local" tournaments. But for the big events, there will be specific
legality dates enforced.

(Exception: if a sealed pack tournament is run as part of a premier event like
a Shonen Jump Championship, and the latest packs were included, obviously they
would be legal for that portion of the premier event.)

Enjoy!

Kevin Tewart
Game Designer
UDE Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D Lead
Upper Deck Entertainment

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/?forum=judge-yu
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By "as soon as they are out," which is the date that they are "out?" Do you mean the date of the Prerelease or the date the set is officially released to stores, which would be about 2 weeks after the Prerelease, but still before the "Premier Tournament Legal" date?

Still a bit confused...
 
Pretty much, all its saying is that the time frame for release of the latest set makes it "legal" for all tournaments except Regionals, Nationals, and Jump Championships.

So, if a set is due out in "May", it's legal in whatever month it is available for purchase, even if it's April.
 
masterwoo0 said:
Pretty much, all its saying is that the time frame for release of the latest set makes it "legal" for all tournaments except Regionals, Nationals, and Jump Championships.

So, if a set is due out in "May", it's legal in whatever month it is available for purchase, even if it's April.
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That's not exactly what I'm asking, but kind of...

For local tournaments (not talking about regionals here), when can a duelist use the cards they got from the Prerelease this weekend? Can they use them in a tournament tomorrow, or do they have to wait 2 weeks for them to be "available for purchase from stores"
 
Unless you are playing in a Regional, Jump Championship, or Nationals, cards are "legal" as soon as you see the first booster pack or single in someones hand, meaning, if you possess it or can buy it, then its legal for play.

Local Tournament Organizers can set their own guidelines as far as when a set can be used. One of the stores I play at is restricting TLM for 30 days following its release, and I'm pretty sure the other store I go to will restrict them until he gets his shipment, regardless of if surrounding stores have them.
 
From UDE: UDE Tournament Appendix A: Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Policies

A-6 Legality of Sets

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Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG card sets become legal for tournament play at set dates. UDE will update this list regularly at ude.com/policy.

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Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG promotional cards become legal upon release.

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Currently Legal Sets: Legend of Blue Eyes White Dragon, Yugi and Kaiba Starter Decks, Metal Raiders, Magic/Spell Ruler, Pharaoh's Servant, Joey and Pegasus Starter Decks, Labyrinth of Nightmare, Legacy of Darkness, Pharaonic Guardian, Magician's Force, Dark Crisis, Yugi and Kaiba Evolution Decks, Invasion of Chaos, Ancient Sanctuary, Soul of the Duelist, Dark Beginnings 1, Rise of Destiny.<O:p></O:p>

Promo Cards: TP1, TP2, TP3, TP4, TP5, MP1, DDS, EDS, SDD, FMR, DOR, JMP, BPT, DL1, DL2, DL3, DL4, DL5, IOC-SE, PCY, TFK, TSC, WC4, EP1, PCJ, PCY, PCK, ROD, DOD-002, DOD-003, MOV, WCS, HL1, CMC, DBT, SP1, WC5, DL6.

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Upcoming dates for card set legality:

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· Flaming Eternity becomes tournament legal on April 1, 2005

· The Lost Millennium becomes tournament legal onJuly 1, 2005

· Dark Beginnings 2 (both reprinted and new cards)becomes tournament legal on release.

· Cybernetic Revolution becomes tournament legal on September 1, 2005

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CP Miller - that which you have posted is not exactly accurate anymore, as you can see. Those legality dates are only applicable to Premier Events, such as Regionals, Nationals, Shonen Jump, etc.

For local tournaments and the like, apparently the sets are now legal for tournament play "as soon as you get them," which would imply that they become legal at the prerelease date.

For what it's worth, here is the link
http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=4972
 
I just read the policy on UDE in the link that was given in the first post. They are saying the only cards that are legal upon release is the promotional cards...e.g. Amazoness Chainmaster.

The policy stated that TLM isn't legal until July 1.
It would be insane seeing people run 3 Brain Controls.
 
Again, the delay is the legality in Premier events (like a Regionals, Nationals or SJC). Also, "Card of Sanctity" was legal upon release because that was already released in the Exclusive Pack 1 (though very few people had it). But at the local one I was at this past weekend, some people were already running TLM cards (though not many to be honest).
 
Then that would need to be updated in the online policy, which UDE has again been behind in updating for relevance. (Seeing how that last released set mention was RDS).
 
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