Manticore-Card of Safe Return combo

[kansashoops]

I've never been clear on this. If I do the Manticore-Card of Safe Return combo to draw as many cards as I want in my end phase, do I have to discard to get down to 6 cards in hand, or can I keep the cards I draw until my next turn?

 

[chaos general]

Yup, you'd have to discard until you have 6 cards. That's why this combo is usually used only with Exodia decks, where discarding won't matter (since you win and all ), or just to fill up your hand. I'd say try it out though, and if it doesn't work, oh well.

 

[skey23]

Unless you have "Infinite Cards" active, you must discard cards to get down to 6 before your turn ends.

 

[kansashoops]

Thanks, that's what I thought. In the case I'm interested in, it wouldn't really matter, and the forced discarding would be a plus in some ways. (I'm working on an idea for a Magical Explosion OTK deck, so the goal is to pull 2 copies of Magical Explosion and load up the graveyard with spell cards.)

 

[masterwoo0]

You could always

Card of Safe Return + Manticore of Darkness + Solemn Wishes + Fire Princess Combo

And, finish them completely off with "Blasting the Ruins".

 

[Jason_C]

Hmm... That Magical Explosion thing might be WAY better than my idea... which was to use Monster Gate and Reasoning in a 60 card deck that was 85% spells. But then, you might never pull it off... *muse*

-pssvr

 

[squid]

I dont see why you couldnt still try Dragged Down to the Grave, Different Dimension Capsule, and a whole lot of other things to help get Reasoning to your hand quickly.

 

[kansashoops]

I was going to use Soul Exchange + Monster Gate in addition to Reasoning.

I kind of like that Blasting the Ruins idea. Hmmm....

 

[squid]

Blasting the Ruins is one of those few deck that I have found that Exchange kind of shines in. Set your Monster Gate before playing Exchange and take an available monster from their hand. Most of what your own hand consists of is thinning cards,so its not a super huge risk to you.

 

[Digital Jedi]

Why not make a deck consisting predomintly of Ookazi type effects so you have a gauranteed chance of depleting your hand when ready? And of course, a series of defensive effects to protect yourself in the meantime. Defensive effects that don't have conditional triggers or that can at least be set.

 

[OKShadow]

Instead of Ookazi's just run Poison of the Old Man to be either offensive or defensive by choice. Plus being quick play you get better chance at using them.

 

[Jason_C]

I think he meant to use a lot of those type of burn cards.
-pssvr

 

[Jathro]

However, since you use Manticore in the End Phase, you wouldn't be able to activate the "Ookazi" type cards because they would all need discarded.

Shame, too, cause that would be quite powerful.

 

[Jason_C]

Well, aren't we the smart one today? Just go and ruin everyone's fun, why don't you?
-pssvr

 

[Jathro]

rcgift: Since I ruined all the fun, here's a free gift.

Throw some Magical Explosions, Blasting the Ruins into the mix and chain them to your opponent's draw.

 

[squid]

I prefer Fire Darts. With a total potential of 1800 damage, it puts your opponent that much closer to the end, when you activate the other effects.

 

[Digital Jedi]

I meant: as oppossed to a Manticore themed deck.

 

[kansashoops]

I knew what you meant. But in order for this kind of deck to work, you've got to 1) get 2 copies of Magical Explosion/Blasting the Ruins ASAP, then 2) pump as many spell cards as possible into the graveyard. Spell cards that do 800-1000 damage just get in the way. And what if you draw a handful of them? You'll do a quick 4-6000 damage, and then you are dead yourself.

 

[Jason_C]

Ok, I'm making this up as I go:
7
Morphing Jar
Cyber Jar
Morphing Jar #2 x3
Magician of Faith
Sangan

24
Card Destruction
Dragged Down into the Grave x3
Reload x3
Tremendous Fire x3
Poison of the Old Man x3
Upstart Goblin x2
Scapegoat
Stray Lambs x3
Messenger of Peace x3
LL AB x2

9
Blasting the Ruins x3
Magical Explosion x3
Secret Barrel x3
-pssvr