Mind Crush

[antilegend]

Does the player who activate Mind Crush get to see his/her opponent's hand if the opponent discard 1 card of that declared name from hand? Let's say:

Player A activate Mind Crush, declaring Smashing Ground.
Player B, who has 5 cards in his hand, discard 1 Smashing Ground from his hand.
Now Player A declares a right to check Player B's hand to make sure there is no more Smashing Ground in B's hand.

Is that legal? Or does Player B have a right to refuse because he discards 1 of the declared card already? And what would happen if the declared card is a limited card (e.g. Premature Burial)?

 

[skey23]

Yes, Player A is allowed to check Player B's hand to verify they did discard ALL of the declared card.

 

[antilegend]

What if A declared a limit-to-one card, such as Premature Burial? Will A still be able to check B's hand then?

 

[masterwoo0]

The effect is pretty specific about declared card or "card(s)", so it would seem that if you know already that a card is limited to one, the expectation that you would get to look at your opponents hand to ensure that they discarded 2 Premature Burial Equip Spell Cards to the Graveyard is not possible.

 

[Dillie-O]

Ick I've been trying to dig up some rulings out of the judge's list because I think there was a similar issue with cards such as Chain Destruction and say Sangan.

Oddly enough, I thought the ruling was that even though the card was restricted to one, the opponent could still search the deck to verify. Can anybody help clarify this one?

 

[masterwoo0]

The only reason that I would say it is allowed is because of Exchange and Graverobber. Other than that, I would say that you "shouldnt" be allowed, but that's my opinion only.

 

[John Danker]

I've been considering Mind Crush for use in a Dark World deck...anyone tried it in a DW deck yet and have comments?

 

[Jathro]

Tried it. Didn't like the fact that it was a random discard. Too often I found myself drawing it with a hand where I didn't want to lose something valuable, such as a Smashing Ground or Premature Burial. It definitely helps advantage in one form or another, just sorta random.

 

[Cropz]

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=2427

that's the proper procedence for all similar effects ('Nobleman of Crossout', 'Nobleman of Extermination', etc).
of course, if the player doesn't discard all copies, that would be cheating.

 

[Dillie-O]

Awesome Cropz! Thanks!