pyramid & newdoria?

[Hellspawn]

during my opponents turn, he attacks my face up atk pos Newdoria with his Pyramid Turtle.
no damage to both player considering they have equal atk.
BUT!!!

is it possible to still target Pyramid Turtle with Newdoria's effect?

and if yes, what happens?
and if no, then what happens?

 

[Jason_C]

*sigh* Ok, here's how it is: Pyramid Turtle and Newdoria go on a chain, with Newdoria as link one and turtle as link two. Chain is formed:
Newdoria: is there a legal target? No, unless there is another monster on the field.
Pyramid Turtle: Do you want to use the effect? Assume yes.
Resolve:
Pyramid Turlte summons a monster
Newdoria destroys a monster if it had a target at activation.
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[skey23]

So the simple answer to your question is no. You can't target the "Pyramid Turtle" with "Newdoria"s effect because both of the monsters have already been determined to be destroyed by battle and are no longer valid targets for effects such as "Newdoria"s.

Hope this helps!

 

[Jason_C]

Right, but apparently the simple answer wasn't good enough, since this is basic chain mechanics, not to mention it has been answered before. So I gave the not-so-simple answer, in hopes it would clear that up once and for all.
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[skey23]

Actually, his question hasn't been asked before, that I can remember. Similar questions have been asked about using "Newdoria"s effect to destroy the newly summoned monster, but never asked about destroying the "Pyramid Turtle".

And who answered with the 'simple' answer before me?...I don't see anybody...do you?

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

So the simple answer to your question is no. You can't target the "Pyramid Turtle" with "Newdoria"s effect because both of the monsters have already been determined to be destroyed by battle and are no longer valid targets for effects such as "Newdoria"s.

Hope this helps!

Nope,

Both cards are already in the Graveyard when Newdoria's effect activates.

 

[skey23]

Ok, ok, semantics. His effect IS a Graveyard effect, but I was trying to point out that "Pyramid Turtle" couldn't be chosen to be destroyed by an effect because he's already destroyed by battle. You know..the whole 'Flip Effect monsters can't target themselves when destroyed by battle' thing...lol..:tssk:

 

[Jason_C]

Actually, his question hasn't been asked before, that I can remember. Similar questions have been asked about using "Newdoria"s effect to destroy the newly summoned monster, but never asked about destroying the "Pyramid Turtle".

And who answered with the 'simple' answer before me?...I don't see anybody...do you?

It's true. It was a different question asked before. However, the scenario has been explained in it's entirety before, so yes, I do see the simple answer given, weeks ago. BTW ah... semantics
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[Hellspawn]

k, thnkx all

close now plz

 

[Jason_C]

k, thnkx all

close now plz

Generally, threads aren't closed unless people are arguing inAppropriately, not following forum rules, off topic, or severely overstating a point.
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