Zanji v. Ancient Gear Beast

Ares22

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Here's the situation. I have The Six Samurai-Zanji and another two Six Samurai on the field. My Friend has Ancient Gear Beast. Would I be able to get the effect of Zanji? What if I only had just one Six Samurai and Zanji?
 
Not unless Zanji is destroyed by battle. If you choose to destroy another The Six Samurai, Zanji would not be destroyed in Battle by Ancient Gear Beast, so Zanji will get his effect, destroying Ancient Gear Beast. And yes, since you controlled another The Six Samurai wnet Ancient Gear Beast attacked, he is destroyed at the end of the Damage Step, even if you used said only other The Six Samurai to save Zanji.
 
DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
And yes, since you controlled another The Six Samurai wnet Ancient Gear Beast attacked, he is destroyed at the end of the Damage Step, even if you used said only other The Six Samurai to save Zanji.
Why? The effect activates at the end of the Damage Step, and at that time there is no other Six Samurai on the field. It shouldn't activate unless you have another Six Samurai out after you destroy one.
 
DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
Not unless Zanji is destroyed by battle. If you choose to destroy another The Six Samurai, Zanji would not be destroyed in Battle by Ancient Gear Beast, so Zanji will get his effect, destroying Ancient Gear Beast. And yes, since you controlled another The Six Samurai wnet Ancient Gear Beast attacked, he is destroyed at the end of the Damage Step, even if you used said only other The Six Samurai to save Zanji.
That was the initial question, if Ancient Gear destroyed it by battle, if it does, Zanji's effect will be negated.
 
Hm, I don't see him asking a specific question.... Time to be unnecessarily thorough!

First, we'll assume that Zanji has less ATK than Ancient Gear Beast, and that Zanji is the one attacking.

Zanji is going to be destroyed by battle. However, you can still use his effect to destroy another Six Samurai instead of Zanji. This effect isn't negated by the Beast, since he hasn't been destroyed yet.

Now, the end of the Damage Step comes around, and Zanji's effect tries to activate. If there's yet another Six Samurai around at this time, then the Beast is destroyed.

However, if you had to destroy your only other Six Samurai to keep Zanji around, then there's no Six Samurai around at this time. His effect won't activate in this case.

(Of course, if you let Zanji be destroyed, then his second effect will be negated anyways.)

Long Story Short:
Zanji + 2 other Samurai: The Beast is destroyed.
Zanji + 1 other Samurai: The Beast isn't destroyed.
 
Actually the effect would go off even if he only had zanji and one other samuria on the field ,the events would play out like this:
zanji attacks battle damage is delt , then and the end of the damage step zanji's effect activates and destroys the Ancient Gear Beast and zanji gets destroyed by battle damage. Then you activate the six samuria switch effect. The reason why the effect would work on other monsters is because the effect of lets say the
Ancient Gear Beast attacked a face down Magician of faith the monster is fliped and then destroyed then the effect happens after the damage step . Zanji's effect happens at the end of the damage step right before it ends.
 
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