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326477 375049 Don't expect me to be playing, though.

He meant the discard is a cost, folks.

Whether the ruling is nonsense or not is a statement that does not need to be made. If you think it's nonsense, do it through proof, not through a simple stating of such an opinion/fact.

And you, sir, are belittling a person's argument, and belittling a person, to prove your point. I think that's much worse for a forum attempting to breed mutual respect. Past posts will show that before I grasp at straws, I make up facts. Oh, but there is. Where on any card text does it...

Great, so you're bashing Konami over UDE, and UDE over us.

It was also brought up that "ignore summoning conditions" doesn't mean "ignore special-summon-only monster rules".

Isn't Kevin Tewart going on these days about how he influenced Konami in this way or that way?

Since there were so many responses, and it still didn't come up... I direct you to Reverse Trap. A card that arguably more directly affects Attack, but STILL can't be activated in the Damage Step.

That was ruled a no... >_>

The original Japanese text, which came out before the English TCG even began, had the correct monsters-only text. In fact, you can probably look for yourself in World Wide Edition in Japanese.

You know that Skull Lair never could remove M/T cards in Japan's rulings, right? A lot of "changes" were actually "fixes". You do not have enough information to place the blame solely on Konami.

Chaining is activating a card before something can happen. Responding is activating a card after something has happened. You can't chain to a summon, as that would imply that your effect resolves before the summon actually happens.

*tic* *tic**tic* *tic* *tic* *tic* I would rant about your arrogance, but this is NOT THE PLACE TO RESPOND TO THIS! Right, if its ashes still belonged to this world. But while it can come back from spiritual displacement, can it come back from physical displacement? Or they can just...

And how exactly do you know this isn't the correct ruling? Note: It does indeed seem to say that. JERP says it is a "limited" Total Defense Shogun. Let's save that for another topic. http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/puppiy/rule/rule4/EEN-JP033.htm If we tried to base rulings off of text, there...

There's no such mechanic as "Printed Attack".

Fine: I found it kinda funny.

The Centrifugal Field wording is an alternative to "used to summon that fusion monster". What is Miracle Fusion's wording an alternative to? JERP rules in favor of the subs.

i.e. They don't know enough to give a straight answer. It doesn't necessarily mean anything.

That's another great question: Does the attacking monster have a chance to use its Ignition effect before the opponent can activate a card in response to the attack?

Trigger effects are spell speed 1. This isn't unusual at all. In fact, most trigger effects can ONLY activate in the response chain. I'm sorry. I'm just passing through and not reading everything that was posted. Sorry, I'm not very organized. It is the Battle Phase. The Turn Player has...