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matrix_sentinal

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hey folks,


i have a few (easy) questions, witch i think i know the answer but i want to be sure about it.

1} player A has a face-up (FU) strike ninja and no other FU or set cards, and two dark monsters in his graveyard.
player B hase FU gemini elf and a face-down (FD) set bottemless trap hole.

player B attacks with gemini players A's ninja, player A usses the effect of strike ninja and removes the 2 dark out his grave for ninja.

in the end phase player A lets strike ninja come back on the field, can player B chain bottemless on it??


2} Player A has 4 schapegoats on the field, nothing els
player B has a set book of moon and a FU mad dog of darkness, nothing els.

player A plays metamorphosis, tributes 1 goat for 1000 eyes restrict. Player B chains book of moon.

Can player A use his priority (as turn player) for 1000 eyes to asorb player B's mad dog??


3} a very old one, player A has a set waboku and a FU skull servant, nothing els.
Player B has a FU terrorking salmon, nothing els

player B attacks with salmon, player A chains with waboku.

is skull servant destroyed or not??


that all.

tnx for answering
 
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matrix_sentinal said:
1} player A has a face-up (FU) Strike Ninja and no other FU or set cards, and two dark monsters in his graveyard.
player B hase FU Gemini Elf and a face-down (FD) set bottemless Trap Hole.

player B attacks with gemini players A's ninja, player A usses the effect of Strike Ninja and removes the 2 dark out his grave for ninja.

in the end phase player A lets Strike Ninja come back on the field, can player B chain bottemless on it??
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No. Strike Ninja returning to the field is not a summon.

2} Player A has 4 schapegoats on the field, nothing els
player B has a set Book of Moon and a FU Mad Dog of Darkness, nothing els.

player A plays Metamorphosis, tributes 1 goat for 1000 eyes restrict. Player B chains Book of Moon.

Can player A use his priority (as turn player) for 1000 eyes to asorb player B's mad dog??
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Thousand-Eyes Restrict has not been summoned yet. There's no prioirity to use Thousand-Eyes Restrict's effect.

3} a very old one, player A has a set Waboku and a FU Skull Servant, nothing els.
Player B has a FU Terrorking Salmon, nothing els
player B attacks with salmon, player A chains with Waboku.
is Skull Servant destroyed or not??
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No its not destroyed. And no player A does not chain with Waboku, you may not chain to an attack. You may only respond to it.
 
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tnx


and what if in example 2 in stat of Book of Moon, yhe use Ring of Destruction.

can the turn player then uses his priority (as turn player) for 1000 eyes??

and while i am typing this, another question came up.

about Ryu Senshi:

on the LOD version says negate a trap card, on the TP6 version says nagate a "normal" trap card.

is this the same as Dark Balter the Terrible, that Ryu Senshi can only negate normal traps and no continous ar counter traps??
 
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matrix_sentinal said:
tnx


and what if in example 2 in stat of Book of Moon, yhe use Ring of Destruction.

can the turn player then uses his priority (as turn player) for 1000 eyes??
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Once, again, there's no priority here, as 1000 eyes has not been summoned.

You place Metamorphosis on the field, you tribute a monster, then Nothing else happens, no monster is summoned. The other player chains Ring of Destruction to Metamorphosis, and we resolve in reverse order. Ring of Destruction destroys a monster then inflicts damage, then Thousand-Eyes Restrict is summoned

and while i am typing this, another question came up.

about Ryu Senshi:

on the LOD version says negate a trap card, on the TP6 version says nagate a "normal" trap card.

is this the same as Dark Balter the Terrible, that Ryu Senshi can only negate normal traps and no continous ar counter traps??
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It can only negate Normal Traps.
 
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The problem you are having in #2 is you are chaining to the Metamorphosis instead of waiting for that to resolve and then targeting Thousand Eyes with the Book of Moon or Ring of Destruction. If you wait for Thousand Eyes to hit the field you can certainly chain to the effect of Thousand Eyes with either and prevent Thousand Eyes from resolving due to Thousand Eyes needing to be face up on the field at the resolution of his effect to suck up the Mad Dog.
 
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The problem you are having in #2 is you are chaining to the Metamorphosis instead of waiting for that to resolve and then targeting Thousand Eyes with the Book of Moon or Ring of Destruction. If you wait for Thousand Eyes to hit the field you can certainly chain to the effect of Thousand Eyes with either and prevent Thousand Eyes from resolving due to Thousand Eyes needing to be face up on the field at the resolution of his effect to suck up the Mad Dog
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ok, so what you say is that, when player B wait's until 1000-eyes is on the field, then player A can use priority.


because, with the example of ring, if player A SS bls-eotb the he can use priority by remouving mad dog. right.

so can he also use priority with 1000 eyes??
 
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matrix_sentinal said:
ok, so what you say is that, when player B wait's until 1000-eyes is on the field, then player A can use priority.


because, with the example of ring, if player A SS bls-eotb the he can use priority by remouving mad dog. right.

so can he also use priority with 1000 eyes??
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In either case, "Ring of Destruction" or "Book of Moon", the player that summoned "Thousand-Eyes Restrict" can call Priority to activate the effect of "Thousand-Eyes Restrict". At this point, they target the opponent's monster, but it DOES NOT change sides yet, the opponent now can chain to "TER"s effect with either "Ring of Destruction" or "Book of Moon". If nothing else is chained, then "TER" will either be destroyed or flipped face-down. And since "TER" will no longer be face-up on the field when it's effect resolves, the opponent's monster will NOT change sides and it stays where it is.

[edit]I just re-read and noticed the part about "BLS - EotB".
If Player A Special Summons "BLS - EotB", yes, they can call Priority to activate the removal effect of "BLS - EotB" and target the opponent's monster. Again, at this point, NOTHING happens yet, and the opponent can chain with "Ring of Destruction". Now, here's the fun part...lol. If Player B chooses "BLS - EotB", and no other cards are chained to "Ring", then "BLS - EotB" will be destroyed, but it's removal effect WILL STILL RESOLVE and remove Player B's monster. If Player B chooses the monster targetted by "BLS - EotB"s effect, then that monster will be destroyed FIRST by "Ring", then "BLS - EotB"s effect will resolve without effect (or dissapear), and now "BLS - EotB" cannot attack this turn, nor use it's effect again. Plus, it stays on the field long enough for you to take control of it and then pwn your opponent or remove it from play!...lol.

Hope this helps.
 
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Now, here's the fun part...lol. If Player B chooses "BLS - EotB", and no other cards are chained to "Ring", then "BLS - EotB" will be destroyed, but it's removal effect WILL STILL RESOLVE and remove Player B's monster. If Player B chooses the monster targetted by "BLS - EotB"s effect, then that monster will be destroyed FIRST by "Ring", then "BLS - EotB"s effect will resolve without effect (or dissapear), and now "BLS - EotB" cannot attack this turn, nor use it's effect again. Plus, it stays on the field long enough for you to take control of it and then pwn your opponent or remove it from play!...lol.
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a yes this wil help a lot.

never knew that lol part, fun to know.

tnx a lot
 
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i strongly belive you have problems with this because at some point you have done this.


like everybody is stating, you said chain, but nope, you dont chain.


basically the brake down of what is going on, and what we all belive you are trying to state because chaining to Metamorphosis leads to other situations.

first lets establish what Turn-Player-Priority is.

TPP - Basically is the fact that the TURN PLAYER, will become chain link 1 for every chain. When the turn player summons, they can activate any ignition effect or spell speed 2 effect.

now that we know what TPP is (well briefly) we can conclude with the situation.

player A has 4 sheep tokens.
Player B has a Set Book of Moon and a Attack Position Mad Dog of Darkness.

It is player A's turn.

Player A activates Metamorphosis and tributes 1 sheep token.
Player B Responds with nothing.
Player A Responds with nothing.
The chain will now resolve.

Metamorphosis special summons a Thousand Eyes Restrict to the field.

There is a newly summoned monster on the field.

Player A can use its priority to become chain link 1 by activating an ignition effect.

Player B should ask if they would like to use their priority to become chain link 1 by activating an ignition effect.

we now establish that Player A will use their ignition effect targeting Mad Dog of Darkness.

Player B can respond to the effect or summon (say they had house of adhiesive tape, or Torrential Tribute)

Player B in this case will activate Book of Moon Targeting Thousand eyes Restrict.

Player A Responds with nothing.
Player B Responds with nothing.

we now resolve the chain in the order from last to first.

Book of Moon putting TER in Face Down defense position.

Thousand eyes restrict cant resolve properly since it is no longer face up on the field.

its easy huh. :D
 
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i strongly belive you have problems with this because at some point you have done this.


like everybody is stating, you said chain, but nope, you dont chain.


basically the brake down of what is going on, and what we all belive you are trying to state because chaining to Metamorphosis leads to other situations.

first lets establish what Turn-Player-Priority is.

TPP - Basically is the fact that the TURN PLAYER, will become chain link 1 for every chain. When the turn player summons, they can activate any ignition effect or spell speed 2 effect.

now that we know what TPP is (well briefly) we can conclude with the situation.
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alright, you are right.

and i am sorry for my use of the language and mayby i say it the wrong way.

please remember that i am a dutchman, and the only thing that we are good in is flying :D (my english is very bad i have to reed everyting twice befor i understand it, same for typing it)

but no kidding i understand it correctly, tnx
 
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no, i ask because I listen to the music, and i figured since he is close to were all that stuff happens maybe...

i wouldnt really know, ive asked other people ive found from the same area but they give me this odd reply.

so preaty much im just asking... I know this girl that loves Ophidian. :D
 
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do you listen to master of hardcore, or any of the other gabber or hardcore farious artistas out there?
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well yes, sometimes i listen to hardcore.

but most of the time i have a cd from "the prodigy" in the cd player.

no, i ask because I listen to the music, and i figured since he is close to were all that stuff happens maybe...

i wouldnt really know, ive asked other people ive found from the same area but they give me this odd reply.
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and the gabber party's aren't the same as they use to be, like 5 tot 10 years ago.

so i must disappoint you, you don't have to come here for the patry's.

 
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so the MOH, the hell raiser, and all thouse events are lowkey now.

man then i rather stay here in cali then, even though i havent come to an event here in a long time.


do you listen to mohradio.com?
 
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