a few questions

[mikoal]

1) if i have jinzo in my hand and a set raigeki break and call of haunted and a 1800 atker face up on the field.

my life points = 1600, opp's = 2400, with 1 set facedown card

i activate rageki break discarding jinzo, he chains ring of destruction for the win, since discarding jjinzo was a cost, jinzo should be in the grave already allowing me to chain call to get jinzo to negate my geki break and his ring is this correct??


2)if i tribute exile to kill banisher of radiance its removed from play is that corrct?
if i had a hydrogeddon with boost from RR, i can get another one out if i successfully kill banisher of radiance, because he will be in the graveyard and no longer remove cards from play is this correct?

3)
deck devestation quesitons if i have a mystic tomato and i play mytic plasma zone or use united we stand on him will he be destroyed from deck dev? i t does not say original atk so i assume no......

if i have sangan face down, and opp uses deck dev, and i get whatever 1500 atk or less with it will i lose it? for sangan to work, the deck dev must be resolved...... so im assuming no it wont destroy that card that sangan is getting


how does deck dev check everyturn? does it check the field, the hand and the draw every turn? or does it check the field and hand immediately then it checks the draws for 3 turns?



Tribute 1 DARK monster with an ATK of 2000 points or more on your side of the field. Check all monsters on your opponent's side of the field, your opponent's hand, and all cards he/she draws during your opponent's next 3 turns, and destroy all monsters with an ATK of 1500 or less.


reading that txt it can be interpreted 2 ways, check the field,hand,draw for next 3 turns as in all 3.
or
check the field, and hand, and the the next 3 draws......

thanks

 

[DarkLogicianOfCaos]

1) correct.
2)correct (on both)
3)Assuming that you have MPZ or United, or whatever power booster already active when Deck Devistation RESOLVES, then your 'Mater will be safe. When DDV resolves, it looks at the opponent's hand, field for 1500- attcks. After it resolves, it will look at every card drawn (and only drawn, so special summoned, or cards put in your hand by your Sangan's effect don't count) until the third end phase (this turn counts as #1).

Hope that clears it up for you.

 

[mikoal]

thanks for the reply it does clarify a lot......

can you clarify when it resolves and after it resolves?

isn't the resolved effect of Deck dev

First check hand and field in the turn it was activated
then check 3 consecutive draws??

so in another words, if i premat exile, after it resolved, i can use it, if i use DD capsule, i can keep the monster of 1500 atk or less given that i chose one that is, so if i draw tree born it'll be discarded and then sucessfully revived next turn and stay revived? is that right?

if the opp activated on his turn or on my turn, does it make that much of a differnece? the only difference i can see if whenever he acitvated it he'll look at the hand and field during that turn, aside from that, itll last for 3 turns either way, and the effect of DDV only really happens during draws after the initiual hand and field check.

 

[Dillie-O]

What Dark Logician is saying is that at the point DDV initially resolves, it will check the cards in your opponents hand. After that, the "lingering" effect of DDV will only check cards drawn. If you happen to special summon a monster with an ATK less than 1500 via Mystic Tomato, it will be safe. Similarly, if you activate something like Morphing Jar #2, where you pickup (not draw) cards, any monsters with an ATK of 1500 or less will be safe.

Just as a point of clarification, its the next three turns that you check all draws, not just the next three draws. If your activates Morphing Jar or the effect of Card of Safe Return or any of those effects that draw outside of the draw phase, they will be checked as well.

Hope this helps!

 

[HorusMaster]

1) if i have jinzo in my hand and a set raigeki break and call of haunted and a 1800 atker face up on the field.

my life points = 1600, opp's = 2400, with 1 set facedown card

i activate rageki break discarding jinzo, he chains ring of destruction for the win, since discarding jjinzo was a cost, jinzo should be in the grave already allowing me to chain call to get jinzo to negate my geki break and his ring is this correct??

Uh, I thought you couldn't special summon a monster in the middle of a chain until the chain is fully resolved? I thought Jinzo doesn't come out until everything in the chain finishes resolving and if this is the case, then Ring should resolve and destroy the monster for the win. But I may be wrong.

 

[Fury]

Building the chain:
link1: Raigeki Break, you discard Jinzo to the graveyard as a cost and target whatever.
link2: Ring of Destruction targets whatever.
link3: Call targets Jinzo in the graveyard.

Resolve backwards:
link3: Call Special Summons Jinzo from the graveyard.
From this point all effects on the field originating from traps are negated. (The destroy effect of Call is negated now.)
link2: Ring is negated by Jinzo.
link1: Raigeki Break is negated by Jinzo.

 

[drzero7]

Uh, I thought you couldn't special summon a monster in the middle of a chain until the chain is fully resolved? I thought Jinzo doesn't come out until everything in the chain finishes resolving and if this is the case, then Ring should resolve and destroy the monster for the win. But I may be wrong.

Your almost correct. The thing is, Raigeki Break is a COST, so when you activate, even before the effect kicks in, you MUST discard a card as a cost, even before the chain is built or even resolved. This is why you can Jinzo summon with CotH when you use Raigeki break for the discard cost of Jinzo.