Any News on the 4/1/06 bans...

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Just like the title suggests, if ANYONE has any information on the April ban list, please post it on this thread.

And just as a favor, put in your post if it is information(fact) or opinion.
 
barty64 said:
There are a few cards that have been suggested to me that might go on the list and they are:

Limited to one:
Cyber Dragon
Sakuretsu Armor
D.D.Assilant

Limited to Two:
Creature Swap
Book of Life
Call of the Mummy
Proto Cyber Dragon
Patrian of Drakness
Vampire Lord
Don Zaloog
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thats fan bans, lets be serious.

vlord just came off restriction, and even like that it doesnt see heavy play.

is it restriction worthy? nope.

has the list shown face nope, not even on the judges list.
 
There have been an enormous number of Ban List - related threads in the past several weeks, and ALL of them have been locked. Here are some facts for you:

1) The Ban List has been announced in the OCG.

2) Our list may or may not be similar to theirs.

3) Everything is else is pure speculation, no one is necessarily right or necessarily wrong.

Sorry, I had to break long enough to say that. Let the flames continue...
 
Jason_C said:
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Sorry, I had to break long enough to say that. Let the flames continue...
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BURN BABY BURN !!! ****** Ahhhhhhh flames.. .. they feel like.... they smell like burning ***

Actually, I think that we should get Tribe Infecting Virus back, and leave serpent as gone.. i would like that... its not so broken with Serpent gone

Also Mirror Force would be GREAT, and limit Sakuretsu to 1 or 2.... Dust Tornado should IMO be limited to 2 also ... ah heck.... lets just limit every card that isnt a searcher to 1(( ie. Tomatos, turtles and nimbles as far as monsters go, then the spell searchers like Reinforcment of the Army or Last Will could be limited to 2... same with Trap ones, what ever they have.... ). That way we have to be more creative in the build... thats what I say. then it REALLY WOULD be up to creativity, and creating synergy within the deck to make it flow better
**OPINION**
 
Everytime I see someone wanting Tribe-Infecting Virus back just further infuriates me because they always seem to make excuses for it not being broken or game ending. They come up with the logic that in every duel you never ever discarded anything else BUT Sinister Serpent and with that banned it is not as powerful. I consider that a crock and a cop-out. No, we do not need TIV back. We do not need people to splash it in their Decks like we know they will do thus ruining any chance theme Decks have at being playable. Dust Tornado would not be limited. It is too slow and limited in how to be used. 2 is a possibilty but it would never go further and 2 is stretching it giving we got Royal Decree in 3x. Mirror Force probably would come back with Dark Hole gone, which never should have come back to begin with. The OCG list was good, but some restrictions and banned seem overkill and unneeded when the Deck type they wanted gone was already nerfed as is.
 
Everytime I see someone wanting Tribe-Infecting Virus back just further infuriates me because they always seem to make excuses for it not being broken or game ending. They come up with the logic that in every duel you never ever discarded anything else BUT Sinister Serpent and with that banned it is not as powerful. I consider that a crock and a cop-out.
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Yes! I knew we'd get some flaming! :woot_jedi Go flame! Go flame! It's ya birthday! It's ya birthday! :dancepart W00T!

I disagree with the notion that all cards that don't need to be run in 3 should be limited. I strongly feel that creativity amongst builds can be acheived even with people running 3 of many cards. Heck, look at some of Jedi's and Atrusofkrondor's crap. They've got some of the best, most original decks you'll ever find. And 9 times out of 10, they're running a ton of cards in duplicate or triplicate. Things like Mirage Dragon or Berserk Gorilla or Waboku need not be restricted, because they don't become stronger when run in multiples. See, if you have 3 serpents and you play 3 Card Destructions consecutively, WHOAH! But having 3 Mirage Dragons on the field gives you 3x the benefit of one, not some exponentially ridiculous advantage.
 
Jason_C said:
I disagree with the notion that all cards that don't need to be run in 3 should be limited. I strongly feel that creativity amongst builds can be acheived even with people running 3 of many cards. Heck, look at some of Jedi's and Atrusofkrondor's crap. They've got some of the best, most original decks you'll ever find. And 9 times out of 10, they're running a ton of cards in duplicate or triplicate. Things like Mirage Dragon or Berserk Gorilla or Waboku need not be restricted, because they don't become stronger when run in multiples. See, if you have 3 serpents and you play 3 Card Destructions consecutively, WHOAH! But having 3 Mirage Dragons on the field gives you 3x the benefit of one, not some exponentially ridiculous advantage.
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I would have to slightly disagree with that. Cards need to be restricted or banned for reasons like being abused, broken, cheap, etc. A card like Waboku does not need to be restricted. Card Destruction needs to be at 1. Using a card 3 times that thins out the Deck and your opponents hand is outrageous in that amount. Getting no real loss by discarding 3 Sinister Serpents is even more grounds to have these type of restrictions in place. I am an advocate of original Decks. Anyone who knows and duels me understands that is what I am about. I dare someone to prove me otherwise in that aspect that my Decks are not original (in the sense no one would ever use them, take them seriously, and so on.)
 
Usually our list copies theirs at least for same cards banned/restricted, just extra cards getting on the list. Never really see cards on Japan's list that we pull OFF for ours. So at least Japan (as stated before) is a good base to start from regarding the new upcoming list.

Regarding Cyber Dragon, I could see it going either way with Proto-Cyber Dragon out.
Graceful coming back will put a lot of questions with players interested in Dark World.
Pot of Avarice, like most Pots is down to 1 at least for now.

So far no real complaints yet. Just wait til mid to late March for UDE's changes.
 
The reason we even get Graceful Charity back is because we got no Draw engine outside of the average Decks people use unless you count that train thing monster. Plus Konami wants people to actually play with Dark World. We all thought that be the new CC and Chaos Deck until low and behold nobody cared. Cyber Dragon just will not get restricted. As I said before, they want people to play as Zane and Proto-Cyber Dragon was made for that purpose to be used with Attack Reflector Unit and Photon Generator. The fact that it could combo with Power Bond or Polymerization to get out your Fusions is an extra bonus, which everyone will use it for to begin with instead of how it was supposed to be played. Oh and unless I am mistaken, I have yet to see people use Cyber Dragon in the Fusion format seriously instead of just splashing 2-3 Cyber Dragons in their CC Decks as this uber Special Summonable monster.
 
Exactly my point. That is a very big problem with the game is that everyone seems intent on just splashing cards together in a Deck under the assumption that the best and stapletastic cards in a single Deck will equal success. That is already more of a reason for it not to be restricted. It is not that special. It is a 2100 5 Tribute monster that can be Special Summoned if you got no monsters on your side of the field and your opponent has a monster. How different is that over Marauding Captain and summoning another monster with its effect? You just do it in reverse this time, plus Machines with Limiter Removal at one need as much help as they can. I hope a trend starts soon with Cyber Phoenix and Lord of D. for other types. That would be the right step. Not to mention people, most likely our list will be exactly the same as OCGs. There is the WORLDS thing that would add confusion and headache to the fire if the game had 2 different lists going on, no matter how slightly different they are. I think half the year for the TCG we get a list to coincide with the OCG for WORLDS. The other half we get what we have as a separation until our card pool gets better.
 
Tiso said:
Exactly my point. That is a very big problem with the game is that everyone seems intent on just splashing cards together in a Deck under the assumption that the best and stapletastic cards in a single Deck will equal success. That is already more of a reason for it not to be restricted. It is not that special. It is a 2100 5 Tribute monster that can be Special Summoned if you got no monsters on your side of the field and your opponent has a monster. How different is that over Marauding Captain and summoning another monster with its effect? You just do it in reverse this time, plus Machines with Limiter Removal at one need as much help as they can. I hope a trend starts soon with Cyber Phoenix and Lord of D. for other types. That would be the right step. Not to mention people, most likely our list will be exactly the same as OCGs. There is the WORLDS thing that would add confusion and headache to the fire if the game had 2 different lists going on, no matter how slightly different they are. I think half the year for the TCG we get a list to coincide with the OCG for WORLDS. The other half we get what we have as a separation until our card pool gets better.
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Well the cards are good, cookie cutter is cookie cutter cause other people copy you and as long as you know why you are using a card, you are fine with whatever you use. If TiV comes back, then Charity won't be coming back, its too hard nowadays to keep a decent sized hand, sure you can drop a TIV and nail my Jinzo, but if thats all you can do its not worth much at all. I had a feeling Dark Hole came back was to combat a little more facedown timed aggro, which it failed miserably, look at flip flop control.
 
And it is exactly that mentality that makes the game in the state as it is. CC is cookie cutter and the cards are good. That is just a horrible way to go about dueling. Make a Deck with the best or good cards because it is the easier and safest route to victory, and yet at the end of the day everyone knows your Deck is not YOUR Deck but just a Deck someone else made that you copied the basic fundamentals about. TIV and Graceful Charity have nothing in common. We need a Draw Engine to thin out of Deck faster, not to mention Konami wants Dark World to be played more because everyone including Konami was under the assumption that be the next big Deck after they nerfed Chaos. Exactly how is a 5 Star 2100 ATK monster is good when I can just bust out a 2200, 2300, or 2400 ATK monster easily to stop it? That is not even going into the amount of Trap or Spell Cards I could use to get rid of it next turn or in the turn it was summoned.
 
According to the new japanese ban list the only changes are :

Pot of Avarice - Only one
Magician of Faith - Back to 3 copies per deck
Nobleman 2 copies per deck


AND THAT'S IT !!!

No big changes will occur , No Mirror Force , No BLS no Pot of Greed.

There is a chance for Gracefull however. Konami's policy is to do very fiew and very cautious changes , so do not hope for something completely radical.
 
Did you actually read the list? There were HUGE changes. Dandylion off the bat gets restricted to 1, so does Treeborn Frog (which I am not happy about since it was not that broken to begin with) because it comboed with Dandylion/Treeborn Frog Emperor (whatever that means from DMcomet.net). I like the list the OCG made, but a lot of the cards on it just seem overkill and not enough was done. Brain Control still at 3? Protector of the Throne still restricted to 1? Book of Moon not touched given they did everything they could to nerf the Tsuko/Goat? Drop Off to 1? Since when did this become such a powerhouse of a card, even in a Toolbox most only used 2 to begin with. I will not even bother to comment about Time Seal. I guess they disliked the lock, WHICH makes no sense when Victory Dragon is gone. They make Exodia even harder to play and without ample enough of draw what are they going to do? I could on about my point is, the list is good but still has a WTF was Konami thinking to it.

My opinion on Treeborn Frog being restricted to 1 is just outrageous. You take away the entire point of Fusion Summoning D.3.S Frog. What is the point of getting some crappy 3000 ATK Fusion Summon only monster? It was not even that powerful to begin with seeing how you had to have no Spell or Trap Cards on the field to activate and you could only bring 1 to the field regardless if you had 2-3 in the Graveyard. Do they think by limiting the number it would increase the chances of us not drawing it more quicker? Hello you left Magical Mallet at 3, OCG has False Burial (the card that dumps a monster from your Deck to the Graveyard). What was up with Magical Stones Mining being restricted to 1?
 
Indeed.

Treeborn Frog not only doesn't exponentially increase in power the more you run of it, it DECREASES in power. This is because drawing a second one when you already have one l00ping is a dead draw. As if Soul Control didn't have enough dead draws to cope with as it is, here's another.

If I were making a Poison Dart Frog <--Have no idea why I just called it that<-- then I would include at MOST two of them, maybe just one, and plenty of searchers. Get it out early, then don't get it again.
 
OUR list will be in out in about 2-3 weeks. We can talk about the facts then. No more speculation please. Time to drop the hammer...
 
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