April 2006 Forbidden/Restricted list released

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Ok for those that also want to know why Cyber Dragon is not going to be restricted, banned listen up:

NO. 1 - Konami wants people to play as Zane Truesdale. Above all else they want to see Cyber Dragon played with Attack Reflector Unit and Photon Generator.

Then we move on to the more technical side as to why it would not be on the list. Proto-Cyber Dragon does make Cyber Dragon obsolete. Keep in mind Konami only made the card to make cards like Photon Generator and Attack Reflector Unit playable since they would have been next to impossible IRL. Next, Cyber Dragon is a LV5 monster who can be Special Summoned only if you control no monsters on your field and your opponent has at least 1 on their side of the field. Then, there is the fact this is no different from using Marauding Captain to Special Summon something like Goblin Attack Force or an Exiled Force. All we really accomplish is a reverse of that. We Special Summon a 2100 ATK monster which can be stopped by multiple of ways, let alone higher ATK monsters that can be Normal Summoned. Then, let say someone Special Summons a Cyber Dragon, and then Tributes it for a Mobius the Frost Monarch. You gave up 2 cards in your hand for a possible 2 Spell or Trap removal that 1 will almost always be a Bottomless Trap Hole.

The card is not going anywhere, it is not broken enough to even be considered and the fact that the GX influence, the amount of sales Cyber Dragon is generating for the game (although eBay does not help Konami or UDE) and its popularity, the card is good as untouched.
 
krazykidpsx said:
you wont see widespred ruin no more watch.

what will happen now is that the oldschool trap line up will come back, you might even see the return of Jinzo and Royal Decree.
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Why would it not be ran over Sakuretsu Armor? I see more of an inclination that targetted effects are getting more trouble to be played. Take Cyber Phoenix. Since we got 2 Nobleman of Crossout, how long do you think it will take for that Deko thing to be swapped for Cyber Phoenix? Then what is a Sakuretsu Armor going to do against that when most will Special Summon a Cyber Dragon and then Cyber Phoenix. Widespread Ruin becomes more desireable now. What I see now is more Defensive plays instead of gung-ho tactics now that we know a Mirror Force is lurking as well as what you said about old school stuff. Time for me to re-evaluate Dark Mirror Force or Tragedy now.
 
the price on the card will drop, only time will tell what will happen to widespread.

put it this way if it was so versitile why i sit seeing play now? its been out for about 2 years.
 
krazykidpsx said:
the price on the card will drop, only time will tell what will happen to widespread.

put it this way if it was so versitile why i sit seeing play now? its been out for about 2 years.
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Oh that is simple. Very simple. Remember, this card has been out as you said and remember it was like $3 card tops? I had like over 10+ of these cards. The reason it even got more play is because of the cards that do not fear targetted effects, plus we did not have Mirror Force. Cards get playable over the dumbest reasons I seen.
 
Tiso said:
Oh that is simple. Very simple. Remember, this card has been out as you said and remember it was like $3 card tops? I had like over 10+ of these cards. The reason it even got more play is because of the cards that do not fear targetted effects, plus we did not have Mirror Force. Cards get playable over the dumbest reasons I seen.
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exactly, with Mirror Force back it might just drop in general and sakuretsu will see 2x with the BTH up to 2 back in decks, with the drop of DDA, DDS will see 1x if anything for thouse who belive RFP isnt a big deal.

trap line up will go back to Oldschool watch :)
 
rock, only one card off my deck, would happen to be my favorite card ever, for reasons that i was the first ever rare i pulled. and has been in every deck build i have ever made. it had to go really, due to the swarmage and mill decking, like fiber, and fiber just made things far too long interms of duels.

overall interesting, i wasnt expecting miracles, deffiantly not the Cyber Dragon, we have as much chance as seeing blue eyes white dragon being banned as Cyber Dragon. not that i worry, i dont mind Cyber Dragon, i like seeing Mirror Force back too, gives people something too rely on

didnt see Exchange coming though, or dda despite the call for it. but i dont sweat it too much, it doesnt affect me too much, so i'm not that bothered. jsut waiting for the non existant day when e-hero's become tier 1 lol
 
Tiso said:
How can you see 3 Smashing Grounds now? People were already running 2-3 already and Vortex has been out and no one bothered and no one will bother with it still.
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i dunno vortex isnt too bad for people who want too dumb, like choas(sorceror) or hero, or rfp decks. it still has uses in parts, but yeah tiso your right about the smashings too. those have already been around for awhile
 
well most ppl have been using just 2 smashings in my area...with the new list they're probably gonna be going for 3 is what i meant..
 
My only 2, suprises where Reaper left untouched (thought that at least he would get the chair to 2), and Graceful coming back... now that I would have never thought of it happening.
 
Dr Kain said:
Why the hell did Dark Hole get taking off just to be put back on?

Also, why the hell did they release another ban list so quickly?
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1. Language warning. The word isn't so bad, it's the intonation you're using with it.

2. It happens every 6 months.
 
Woah, this list looks ALOT like the Japanese list.

And heh, Treeborn Frog is ALREADY limited 1 per deck. HA! My predictions were right!

Well, this means to run froggy effectively, you HAVE to run at least 2x Mother Grizzly or it'll be pointless in metagame level.

Hmm... need Mirror Force... And Graceful is back. Heck, that won't be that much of a pain if your tecking Goldd and Treeborn Frog. Those are meant for discarding.

And WOAH! MoF, NoC and Reflect Bounder are all 2 per deck! Why? I think MoF is more of a threat then Mask of Darkness....
 
You could always search it out with Sangan. If I was using Mother Grizzly, I'd add in 1-2 Poison Draw Frogs as well.

Tech'ed Browws are good too. It is a good thing PoA got restricted to 1. I hated the MPT deck.

Mask + Tsuku + Time Seal + Drop Off + D. Tribe + Victory Dragon = gm (good match). Even without Victory Dragon, a lock can be maintained and abused.

With NoC to 2, MoF's will likely be crossed out. Fewer flips will be run so the abuse won't be as bad.
 
Well, I'm gonna miss Last Will, Cyber Jar, and Time Seal. I'm happy to see Graceful Charity (*ahem*I was already running Dark World, and quite well if I do say so myself) and Mirror Force come back.

I suppose I'll try and trade off my extra Pot of Avarice, Treeborn Frogs, and D.D. Assailant now that they're all at 1 a deck, even if they don't stay that way. They'll still be popular, nonetheless.

Having an extra Nobleman of Crossout will be interesting. I'm not sure how much of an impact this new list will have on current decks, save for a few changes. Maybe I'm just not seeing something. *shrug*
 
The reason why Widespread Ruin came into play in metagames was the banning of Mirror Force. That and the gameplay tempo gotten faster with Warrior Toolbox with DD family abuse. People needed protection, and 3x Saku wasn't cutting it.

Of course NOW, thats changed into flip-flop control and thus the tempo dropped. And now we got Mirror Force back and we got Treeborn Frog. I'm expecting Widespread to drop in metagame wise.

Kinda like Newdoria somewhat Disappeared in metagames once DDWL and DDA came out. But since now both DDWL and DDA (Before, it was just DDWL. So with DDWL + 3x DDA, still no real reason to run Newdoria) are 1 per deck, we might see more Newdoria play.

Heck, we might see Yomi Ship play instead of Newdoria. Since it's now 1 per deck for Treeborn Frog, people HAVE to use like 2-3x Mother Grizzly if they want to put Treeborn Frog. (Or else, it's totally meaningless) So since your putting Grizzly, might as well put Yomi Ship as well for some Grizzly control. Well, my prediction of 2x Grizzly + 2x Frog + 1x Yomi Ship was off. Now it'll be 2~3x Grizzly + 1 Frog + 1~2x Yomi Ship.
 
I forgot what did Victory Dragon do? (It's not released in US so... yeah) I know it's freaking powerful monster.

I'm gunna miss Time Seal. I was so planning to use that in my froggy control deck... and now Time Seal is banned and froggy is 1 per deck... back to the drawing board.

And I don't know about Poison Draw Frog. Yeah you draw a card, but you also take some HEAVY HIT when that frog gets attacked, and overall loss of monster in your field. I rather pull out Yomi Ship with that for field presence. (Cause your foe will hesitate if they should attack Yomi Ship or not, like Newdoria)
 
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