Cards in Warrior Structure Deck Legal?

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I was at a local tournament today, and someone was trying to play the common Royal Decree from the Warrior Structure Deck. He was told that he couldn't play it yet. Is that official? I thought that all cards were legal now as soon as they were released.
 
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That was my understanding, but they were claiming that WalMart jumped the gun and put the decks on the shelves early, that Upper Deck was going to tell WM to pull them, and that the cards in the structure deck were not legal for play until the "official" release. I was trying to find out if they made that up, or if that was official. I haven't been able to find any official statement to that effect, but then I'm not a judge. :)
 
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All of the cards in there with the exception of the thee news ones had already been our in other forms so of course they'd be legal and i'd of course assume the others would also be legal upon their release.
 
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Well, not all cards are legal upon release. If you'll remember, FET wasn't tourney legal until about a month after release.

I saw a schedule of when stuff will be released and when it will be legal. When I find it, I'll edit this post.
 
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UDE are quite the perplexing busy bodies so who is to say how it goes. It seems that UDE can not keep their heads on straight on ruling issues and product distribution. So I wouldn't be surprised if some considerd it legan and illegal. Our judge today declared it legal because there were a lot of youger kids using the Warrior Structure Deck.
 
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Since the Warrior Structure deck has only 3 new cards, and the rest is reprint cards; my understanding is that the entire Structure deck is tournament legal.

The Royal Decree common is tourney legal because it is a reprint of an already released card.

Im gathering this from what UDE/Konami has stated with the releases of the DB and DR sets.

And with the release of DB2 there were new Toon cards which were also tournament legal.

So all in all, its legal to my understanding.
 
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Remember, new sets are not Major Event Legal until the 1st of the month "after" they have been released.

Example:

Pre-Release for EEN is November 5. EEN is legal for all Tournaments December 1st. EEN is legal upon Pre-Release, for Local Tourney's only.

The Structure Decks are supposed to be Tourney Legal for Local Events.
 
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Akabane said:
Well I am going to assume this dispute took place at a local establishment.
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I really hate Local Tournament Organizers who decide to go against the Tournament Policy.

I mean, where do you draw the line? I understand they dont want players to be disadvantaged by individuals who could actually attend Pre-Releases hundreds of miles away sometimes, or get the latest Structure Deck FIRST, but they already paid the cost to be the first owners of the latest set. Why should they also be penalized AGAIN for wanting to get a head start at local events, knowing they can't use them at Majors?

I think UDE should clarify their policy and state that this is not something T.O.'s should have power over manipulating. It is unfair. Should the new D. D. Warrior also be "banned" until it becomes a reprint because it is not going to be owned by more than a handful of people????
 
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Jathro said:
Well, not all cards are legal upon release. If you'll remember, FET wasn't tourney legal until about a month after release.

I saw a schedule of when stuff will be released and when it will be legal. When I find it, I'll edit this post.
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That was before the statement issued by UDE stating that sets are legal upon release.

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=4972#4972
I wanted to give everyone a heads up on an IMPORTANT change to the rules regarding card legality dates.

Effective with The Lost Millennium, cards will be legal for use as soon as the set is out, EXCEPT for premier events. Premier events are things like regionals,
nationals, Shonen Jump Championships, etc. Those events will continue to have a specific legality date for new sets. Those dates will be available here:
http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/op/policy/yugioh_policy.aspx

This means you can use the cards as soon as you get them for Duelist King
tournaments, Duelist League, Hobby Store League (once it's up & running again), and other "local" tournaments. But for the big events, there will be specific legality dates enforced.

(Exception: if a sealed pack tournament is run as part of a premier event like
a Shonen Jump Championship, and the latest packs were included, obviously they would be legal for that portion of the premier event.)

Enjoy!

Kevin Tewart
Game Designer
UDE Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D Lead
Upper Deck Entertainment
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masterwoo0 said:
I think UDE should clarify their policy and state that this is not something T.O.'s should have power over manipulating. It is unfair. Should the new D. D. Warrior also be "banned" until it becomes a reprint because it is not going to be owned by more than a handful of people????
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Unfortunately, having discussed the issue with Raymond Fong (via e-mail) a wee bit aparently a TO can have whatever legality they wish, as long as it's made clear before the tournament. For example you can make up your own Forbidden card list. :eek:
I was asking him about running a slight varient on the usual sealed deck format and we got into a brief discussion on the things a TO can do and still have it a legal tournament.

I think UDE's best bet on dealing with the issues of card legality is to be more stringent upon when stores may begin selling, possibly using contracts and fines to deal with those who try to sell before they're supposed to just so that they can beat the other stores to it.
 
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I get what your saying D. But it still doesnt make it right or fair. You can have 2 stores 30 minutes from each other, one lets you play them, one doesn't. That's not consistent.

I would rather just have the old policy back, since it seems that the majority of Stores are using it anyway. At least I knew when I could play my cards instead of having to take them out of my deck and have cards on hand.

And you can't say, "Well, you should know how your store owner runs his tourneys." That doesnt always work because the policy is "Legal after Pre-Release", so if I go based on that, and find a new store to play at because I'm new to the area, I should be penalized by a policy that says I can use my cards, but really cant????

Then, some would say, "Bring extra cards". I only want to keep up with the cards in my Deck and Side Deck. I dont even like bringing a Trading Binder. As cards get more and more sought after, unscrupulous people do whatever it takes to get them, even people you "thought" were alright.

I remember when TP5 came out, we had this one guy who people thought was cool, make a trade with this kid for his Luminous Soldier. He told him he didnt have his Trading Binder with him, but just let him have the card, and next week, he'd give him a bunch of cards for it.

A whole month and a half of "next weeks", without-coming-to-the-store-later, I ran into him at another Store playing and asked him about it. He couldnt even remember how he got it and was going to trade it too me!!!!! No sir. I'd rather keep up with the 55 cards I bring to play with, and no more. I'll buy on eBay if I need a card that bad.


P.S. Yes, I made him give the card back to the kid (kid also pulled a Needle Worm as well. Lucky dog... lol)
 
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Unfortunately the old system relied on the TO's making the effort to check the policies as to when a set became legal, which certainly my local one (for one's I play in obviously not the ones I'm TO for) never seemed to, so it was all down to whether or not the players he was friends with wanted a set to be legal any particular weekend.
 
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