Once Dark Ruler Ha Des destroys a monster in battle, its effect is negated unless reset. If you special summon Treeborn Frog with Call of the Haunted or Premature Burial and then it returns to the Graveyard, TF would get its effect. However, Treeborn Frog, like Sinister Serpent does not get to apply its effect even on subsequent Standby Phases.HorusMaster said:I'm sorry but you are wrong on this one. The second Standby Phase after the turn that Treeborn Frog is destroyed, as long as there are no Spell or Trap cards on the field, Treeborn Frog can be special summoned to the field. While Dark Ruler Ha Des negates the effect for the next Standby Phase, it can't negate the effect the Standby Phase after that.
Digital Jedi said:Think of it as a ing effect that always negates the monster every time he tries to activate or become active. The ruling for Treeborn is specifically saying that if the effect is negated once, then you can activate it again. But Ha Des just keeps on negating each time it tries to activate.
HorusMaster said:But that is conditional upon Dark Ruler still being on the field, correct? If Dark Ruler Ha Des is removed or destroyed, doesn't Treeborn Frog's effect activate the following Standby Phase?
HorusMaster said:But that is conditional upon Dark Ruler still being on the field, correct? If Dark Ruler Ha Des is removed or destroyed, doesn't Treeborn Frog's effect activate the following Standby Phase?
ricencracker said:now i'm not 100% sure but about 90%-95% sure that its a no cuz it doesn't say on dark ruler while this card is face up on the field or something like that
HorusMaster said:Yes it does..."As long as this card remains face-up on the field, the effects of Effect Monsters destroyed as a result of battle by Fiend-Type monsters on your side of the field are negated
He has to be on the field in order for Fiend Types to place the negation condition on them when they are destroyed by them. The negation condition remains upon them, regardless of where Ha Des goes afterward. This is covered in the FAQ:HorusMaster said:Yes it does..."As long as this card remains face-up on the field, the effects of Effect Monsters destroyed as a result of battle by Fiend-Type monsters on your side of the field are negated