European SP events, promo cards?

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Just checking if anyone else here went to an SP event in Europe, and if so did you get a promo card? The TO said that we weren't getting the promo cards in Europe, they were only being given in the US (so I'd assume Austrailia also got left short), if this is true then I'm definitely left thinking there are 3 tiers in the hierarchy of Yu-Gi-Oh, Japan & Asia-The US & Canada-The rest of the World.
Does anyone know if this is true, is there a reason for it, etc...?
 
Japan will always be the priority, then North America, and I have no idea where Asia falls under if it does.
 
Japan / Asian is 1 big thing. they all get the same cards equally.

The US / Canada has cry baby players that want rediculous stuff - hence why we get "GOD" Cards and Europe the rest of the world gets much better promos

The poor ignore European brothers. they get left in the dust sometimes. :(

im not european but i much rather play there than here were, they distribute dumb cards.
 
krazykidpsx said:
Japan / Asian is 1 big thing. they all get the same cards equally.

The US / Canada has cry baby players that want rediculous stuff - hence why we get "GOD" Cards and Europe the rest of the world gets much better promos

The poor ignore European brothers. they get left in the dust sometimes. :(

im not european but i much rather play there than here were, they distribute dumb cards.
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Actually, you have that backwards on the US / Canada stuff. We did not cry for "GOD" cards. They released the God Cards for marketing issues, such as making money on the people that would mindlessly beg their parents to spend big bucks on them. What we want are our fair share of the pie from Japan. The reason we have to "cry" to get cards we should have gotten years ago is because of Kevin Tewart. Whatever he says, he is what keeps Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG from getting the cards we should have gotten years ago. I remember he said from a previous tin release that he picks the cards he likes and there is no secret random way they get picked. We can pretty much see that is a lie. It is like they just throw a bunch of darts at a wall and hopefully we will get something good. I.E., Panther Warrior, Dark Magician Girl, and so on. Panther Warrior is beyond useless now. It would have been worth while when Scapegoat first came out in the TCG. What was the point of releasing an alternate art of Dark Magician Girl over a new card? How long did it take to finally get Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon?

It is not the US / Canada fault, the blame goes to Konami and Upper Deck on that one. However, in Upper Deck's defense they are on the ball with releasing cards thanks to Sneak Peak, Shonen Jump, Hobby League, and Tourney Packs. At least we can get new cards in some fashion or another in those fields, even though it will take eons. For instance, the prize for SJC which will not be reprinted for over a year or more.
 
its rediculous.

and not true i read pleanty of people cry for the "god" cards, now they have them, their happy, and use Tourney players are mad and ticked about "why couldnt we get said card"

and its true.

tell me there isnt a card in the OCG that you wouldnt dream of making it over here just to play it.

i know one of the cards i want to play beyond the normals is Devils Sanctuary.
 
krazykidpsx said:
its rediculous.

and not true i read pleanty of people cry for the "god" cards, now they have them, their happy, and use Tourney players are mad and ticked about "why couldnt we get said card"

and its true.

tell me there isnt a card in the OCG that you wouldnt dream of making it over here just to play it.

i know one of the cards i want to play beyond the normals is Devils Sanctuary.
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I want all the OCG cards to come over. I would not cry over just one, I want them all. We would not have to use different restriction lists in that case, although I do like Upper Deck's approach to cleaning up the mistakes the OCG has done, even if they do got some superiority complex that they themselves created the game.
 
dude, the OCG has so many deck types its not funny.

OUR list shoudl have stayed the same. OUR list should fit to world standards.

what will our players do come worlds?

with only a few months.

now, if OCG was already planing on banning POT since the beginning then who cares, but at this point, i dont think its fair.

our list comes 1 month after theirs and so do our sets, so naturally it should be fair.

next set doesnt come out till feb. man thats a long way from now.
 
krazykidpsx said:
dude, the OCG has so many deck types its not funny.

OUR list shoudl have stayed the same. OUR list should fit to world standards.

what will our players do come worlds?

with only a few months.

now, if OCG was already planing on banning POT since the beginning then who cares, but at this point, i dont think its fair.

our list comes 1 month after theirs and so do our sets, so naturally it should be fair.

next set doesnt come out till feb. man thats a long way from now.
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No, our list should not have stayed the same. We do not have their card pool to counter cards the way they are able to. We needed different lists based on our respective card pools. However, for anyone who is upset at the change keep in mind that it is improbable that the list will not revert to a uniformed list because Worlds will be a nightmare with different restriction lists running around.
 
Nah you think? lol

and about card pool, who cares. so what if we do.

we can just deal with it. we have before. since the beginning.
 
Tiso said:
No, our list should not have stayed the same. We do not have their card pool to counter cards the way they are able to. We needed different lists based on our respective card pools. However, for anyone who is upset at the change keep in mind that it is improbable that the list will not revert to a uniformed list because Worlds will be a nightmare with different restriction lists running around.
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I completely agree with you, I swear this whole thing is just going haywire, next thing you know we will have monkies running the infastructure of UDE.
 
Well, I am pretty sure the problems with the game stem from Konami. The name changes and art changes are not Upper Deck decisions, they are decisions made by Konami in order to sell the game to a different culture than the Japanese, in North America where things are different. However, believing that there will be 2 different restriction lists come Worlds is just plain stupid.
 
I suppose that will depend on which list is used at World's. The blame Konami or blame UDE game has been done to death. And nothing has changed.

Yes, Konami treats the U.S. like step-children and doesn't release the cards to us that get released in OCG. But since many of these cards are Promo it would have been dependent on coming up with Promotional opportunities for these cards to be released and make the money that they were making in the OCG. Fault? Probably both sides.

Yes, UDE has done a terrible job at actually understanding the base rules of the game and getting them out correctly to the players outside of the OCG. But Konami could have stepped in and run with that ball at any point during the problems instead of just yelling at UDE for getting it wrong and leaving people who didn't understand the game in charge of explaining to those who want to learn to play it correctly. Fault? Again both sides share blame.

As far as what cards go in the Tins, take anything Kevin says with a pound of salt (not a grain, that isn't heavy enough to hit him with). If he actually is in charge of choosing which cards out of all of the cards in the OCG he wants in the tins then he should be shot on sight. I'd wager he isn't making those decisions (but I'm sure he would tell you that Konami wanted to give us nothing but Skull Servants, and Mokey Mokeys and it was only by beating their Samurai Warriors in hand to hand combat that he was able to get us cards as good as Rocket Warrior and Vorse Raider). Fault? My guess would be Konami but Kevin's tall tales make it hard to pin the blame. :)

As far as name changes and art changes this can be partially blamed on Konami, partially on 4Kids Entertainment, and partially on the fact that they really are different cultures. I've seen Japanese users manuals for Electronics, Software, and even Business with nudity that had to be edited out for english versions. The U.S. is a country founded by prudes. Ask a European about topless beaches, drinking before 21, Appropriate Art, or a few dozen other subjects and they'll tell you we create or own problems by trying to keep everything taboo. Fault? I really don't think this even qualifies. So some names are stupid and some artwork got redone, it isn't anything to lose sleep over.

Having 2 different restrictions lists will be an interesting experiment. UDE feels they have a better idea of what is happening here (and since Konami doesn't seem to pay any attention to us I can't really argue with that). Perhaps seeing that the games are so different because of the vast differences in card pools and having to deal with the headaches at World's will make everyone agree that the missing cards should get released in TCG and we should go over to a single governing body handing out rulings. (I know I'm dreaming on this one, but wouldn't it be great if it happened?)

Also, there really shouldn't be a Third World status imposed on Europe and the other countries that play the game. UDE should be more sympathetic based on the lessened status we get from Konami and do their best not to create the same problems in their own territories.
 
Actually VS is a run great. The game mechanics help here more than Yugioh. The people in R&D actually think before they make a card. They test and test to make sure nothing is broken. If a card becomes to powerful they errata it or a card in the combo to make it more fair. The only card they messed up on was Overload and that was in the first set. They also listen to the players. There are a few players that now work for UDE so that helps the game. Basically they look at the game more from the player side than the business side. Konami is the other way around.
 
anthonyj said:
As far as name changes and art changes this can be partially blamed on Konami, partially on 4Kids Entertainment, and partially on the fact that they really are different cultures. I've seen Japanese users manuals for Electronics, Software, and even Business with nudity that had to be edited out for english versions. The U.S. is a country founded by prudes. Ask a European about topless beaches, drinking before 21, Appropriate Art, or a few dozen other subjects and they'll tell you we create or own problems by trying to keep everything taboo. Fault? I really don't think this even qualifies. So some names are stupid and some artwork got redone, it isn't anything to lose sleep over.
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Topless beaches, yup remember when I was in Spain as a kid, wasn't used to it as the Irish are a bit prudish in that way too so there aren't any here that I know of (There were huge numbers of people complaining when a sex shop was to open on one of the main streets here in Dublin as previously they'd all been tucked away in little alleyways) (there was similar furor over a proposed nudist beach, don't know if it went ahead or not).
Legal age for alcohol is 18 here and in the UK, it's 16 in France.
Considering the kind of stuff kids can see easily on TV these days though I don't get why they bother editing the cards at all.
And the editing of the cartoon... *hangs and shakes head*
 
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