Gradius' Option

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No, and no.

Being an "only be special summoned by..." blah, blah, blah, it cannot be summoned by any other means UNLESS it was properly summoned from the hand first, then destroyed / RFP'ed, then you go to summon it. So special summoning from the deck is impossible in this scenario.

It's not a nomi. Nomies, I mean nomi's, I mean nomii, I mean nomives can be recognized by the word "except" in their text.
 
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You guys are talking about the reason I came into this game in the first place (Gradius), so I have to say something. :) Anyway, Cropz, Gradius' Option have '?' as their attack, thus are unsearchable by Sangan or Inferno Reckless Summoning. The Options ALWAYS match the attack of the Gradius that they're attached to, and have no attack otherwise. Last I checked, you can't search for monsters with undefined attack and/or defense values, which is why Gradius is sadly under-utilized by all except my Old-School Gamer's deck. :beef: Oh well.

And as for this being nomi, doesn't "only" and "except" say the same thing, specifying the only way they can come out?:confuse: Only way I know how to get the options out of the graveyard is Pot of Avarice.

On a lesser note, how do you quote stuff on here?
 
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Scurman said:
You guys are talking about the reason I came into this game in the first place (Gradius), so I have to say something. :) Anyway, Cropz, Gradius' Option have '?' as their attack, thus are unsearchable by Sangan or Inferno Reckless Summoning. The Options ALWAYS match the attack of the Gradius that they're attached to, and have no attack otherwise. Last I checked, you can't search for monsters with undefined attack and/or defense values, which is why Gradius is sadly under-utilized by all except my Old-School Gamer's deck. :beef: Oh well.

And as for this being nomi, doesn't "only" and "except" say the same thing, specifying the only way they can come out?:confuse: Only way I know how to get the options out of the graveyard is Pot of Avarice.

On a lesser note, how do you quote stuff on here?
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Inferno Reckless Summon does not search for monsters based on their attack strength. You select a monster already on the field with an ATK of 1500 or less and then search for cards with the same name as the selected card. The ATK of the monsters in the hand, deck or Graveyard is irreleavant and has no bearing on what is being searched out.

In the case of a Nomi Monster, the use of the words "except" and "cannot" in the same sentance of the Special Summoning conditions that designate it a Nomi. It's not about proper use of grammer or defintions, its Konami's templating for these types of effects.

So you would not be able to Special Summon Gradius' Option from the hand or deck, but if properly summoned the first time, and provided the one on the field has 1500 or lower ATK points, then you would be able to Special Summon Gradius' Option's from the Graveyard.
 
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Scurman said:
On a lesser note, how do you quote stuff on here?
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to quote something put a bracket [ ]around the word quote before your selected text. At the end of the selected text, put the bracket [ ] around the word /quote

To quote and refer to someone directly put quote=whoeversnameyouwanttoquote and finish it with the same /quote

Then you get

squid said:
Hello!
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something like this
 
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:eek: I stand corrected. I had no idea that Gradius' Options fell under the "as long as they were summoned correctly they can be revived" motif. That changes a few things on my end, as now I want to figure out how well this can work with my deck. Thanks for the correction.:eek:o

squid said:
to quote something put a bracket [ ]around the word quote before your selected text. At the end of the selected text, put the bracket [ ] around the word /quote

To quote and refer to someone directly put quote=whoeversnameyouwanttoquote and finish it with the same /quote
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Thanks, Squid. :)
 
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skey23 said:
Yes, that would work, but you'll end up with one of 2 scenarios.

1. The "Gradius' Option" summoned via "Inferno Reckless Summon" will have no ATK/DEF values because it has no targeted "Gradius" to use.

2. The "Gradius' Option" summoned via "Inferno Reckless Summon" will be immediately destroyed after the summon because it has no targeted "Gradius" to use.
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1. For all intents and purposes, the Gradius' Option will have and ATK and DEF of 0.

2. Without a selected Gradius upon summoning, there is no reason for that part of its effect to be relevant.
 
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Cropz said:
the 'Gradius' Option' summoned by 'Inferno Reckless Summon' will have the same ATK/DEF as one selected 'Gradius', everytime one 'Gradius' Option' becomes face-up on the field, you must select a 'Gradius' for it.
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This monster can only be Special Summoned by selecting 1 face-up "Gradius" on your side of the field.



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That is a summoning condition akin to removing one Fire Monster from your Graveyard from play to Special Summon Inferno or by tributing Petite Moth for Perfectly Ultimate Great Moth. Your fulfilling a summoning condition writtien in the monster's summoning requirments just like any other Special Summon-Only monster. You wouldn't remove an additional Fire Monster from play if you brought out Inferno using Inferno Reckless Summon. If you Special Summon Gradiu's Option with Inferno Reckless Summon, you select nothing. Your not Special Summoning it through its built in effect. Your Special Summoning it through an outside effect. Gradius' Option's ATK/DEF will be 0.
 
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DaGuyWitBluGlasses said:
No, DJ, its a special condition, that even applies other than when its being summoned:

From the FAQ:

If "Gradius' Option" is temporarily removed from play by the effect of "Interdimensional Matter Transporter" or "Dimensionhole", when it returns to the field you must select a new "Gradius". If there is no "Gradius" on the field, it is destroyed.
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That's an odd ball ruling, granted, but it doesn't apply to a Special Summoned Graduis' Option. I imagine the ruling is meant to provide explanation to an instance where it's simply removed and returned. But thats a special case. It text is formated in the manner that Special Summon Only's are formatted in and should thereby follow the general rules of a Special Summon Only.
 
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