help with soul exchange

Sakura Sakamoto

Sakura Sakamoto

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i've beeen thinking about using soul exchange for a while
but me and my friends can't decide if i need a monster on my
of the field to us it.
 
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Jinzo[/ycard]64]i've beeen thinking about using Soul Exchange for a while
but me and my friends can't decide if i need a monster on my
of the field to us it.
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You activate Soul Exchange and target an opponents monster.
After Soul Exchange has successfully resolved, you can tribute the targeted monster instead of one of your monsters the next time you would have to tribute one of your monsters (whew).

So, you don't need a monster on your side of the field when you activate Soul Exchange. ;)

You can also play SE, then activate Metamorphosis and tribute the opponents monster (unless it's not face-down).

soul :cool:
 
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soulwarrior said:
You activate Soul Exchange and target an opponents monster.
After Soul Exchange has successfully resolved, you can tribute the targeted monster instead of one of your monsters the next time you would have to tribute one of your monsters (whew).

So, you don't need a monster on your side of the field when you activate Soul Exchange. ;)

You can also play SE, then activate Metamorphosis and tribute the opponents monster (unless it's not face-down).

soul :cool:
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But you need to have a monster on the field when Soul Exchange resolves fully for it's effect. I also believe that you cannot normal summon or set a monster, activate Soul Exchange and use your opponent's monster for a tribute summon or set. Anyone?
 
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No you dont need a monster on your side of the field when it resolves in order to get the effect. Read above. in no way is a monster on your side of the field needed.

Like the guys said it just sets up an instance whereby you can tribute your opponents monster in place of your own. If you have already used up your normal summon/set then you cannot use Soul Exchange to tribute your opponents monster for another one. One normal summon per turn remember.
 
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HorusMaster said:
But you need to have a monster on the field when Soul Exchange resolves fully for it's effect. I also believe that you cannot normal summon or set a monster, activate Soul Exchange and use your opponent's monster for a tribute summon or set. Anyone?
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As I said in the other thread, the only thing Soul Exchange does at activation is have you select one monster on your opponent's side of the field. "Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field."

Once it resolves it doesn't do anything beyond that, other then the state Emerald mentioned that is set up. "This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead."

Also keep in mind that tributes can be for lots of things. Not just Normal Summons or sets. You could Normal Summon Cannon Soldier, activate Soul Exchange and then tribute their monster for 500.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
As I said in the other thread, the only thing Soul Exchange does at activation is have you select one monster on your opponent's side of the field. "Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field."

Once it resolves it doesn't do anything beyond that, other then the state Emerald mentioned that is set up. "This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead."

Also keep in mind that tributes can be for lots of things. Not just Normal Summons or sets. You could Normal Summon Cannon Soldier, activate Soul Exchange and then tribute their monster for 500.
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I understand all of this but I've seen too many people read into the threads the wrong way and I've seen many try to use the threads as "rulings" and using Soul Exchange to tribute their opponents monster to summon a higher level monster. I've tried to explain that the text states that you must have a monster on your side of the field when the card resolves (not activates) in order to tribute summon a monster. They argue that they don't need to have a monster on the field in order to use the effect of Soul Exchange and I've tried to convince them that they do. Most don't understand the difference between activation and resolution of a card effect.
 
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HorusMaster said:
I understand all of this but I've seen too many people read into the threads the wrong way and I've seen many try to use the threads as "rulings" and using Soul Exchange to tribute their opponents monster to summon a higher level monster. I've tried to explain that the text states that you must have a monster on your side of the field when the card resolves (not activates) in order to tribute summon a monster. They argue that they don't need to have a monster on the field in order to use the effect of Soul Exchange and I've tried to convince them that they do. Most don't understand the difference between activation and resolution of a card effect.
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You DONT need a monster on your side of the field when Soul Exchange resolves to tribute your opponents monster for a higher level monster. This has never been the case.

The only time you would is if you use your opponents monster in a "7-Star" and above Tribute.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
You DONT need a monster on your side of the field when Soul Exchange resolves to tribute your opponents monster for a higher level monster. This has never been the case.

The only time you would is if you use your opponents monster in a "7-Star" and above Tribute.
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Card Text
Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field. This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase during the turn that you activate this card.

How can this be interpreted as you don't need a monster on your side of the field for Soul Exchange to resolve?
 
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How do you tribute a monster for a 5-6 Star level monster? By tributing a monster on your side of the field.

Soul Exchange allows you to tribute your opponents monster in place of that need.

You dont need a monster on the field. Why do you think "Soul Control" is so popular?
 
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masterwoo0 said:
How do you tribute a monster for a 5-6 Star level monster? By tributing a monster on your side of the field.

Soul Exchange allows you to tribute your opponents monster in place of that need.

You dont need a monster on the field. Why do you think "Soul Control" is so popular?
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This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead.

Doesn't the text imply that rather than using YOUR MONSTER for a tribute, you CAN use YOUR OPPONENT'S for the tribute. If you summon a higher level monster with your opponent's monster, it then gives you TWO monsters on your side of the field, unless you use the monster for Cannon Soldier or some other card effect to inflict life point damage.
BTW- what is SOUL CONTROL?
 
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HorusMaster said:
Card Text
Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field. This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead. You cannot conduct your Battle Phase during the turn that you activate this card.

How can this be interpreted as you don't need a monster on your side of the field for Soul Exchange to resolve?
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That was the point of my post. You don't need a monster. The very sentence you bolded supports that. "If" you would tribute a monster this turn. What you need when you activate Soul Exchange, is a monster on your oppopnent's side of the field. Your not going to be using Soul Exchange's for your side of the fild, so why would having a monster even matter?
 
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HorusMaster said:
This turn, if you would Tribute a monster on your side of the field, Tribute the selected monster instead.

Doesn't the text imply that rather than using YOUR MONSTER for a tribute, you CAN use YOUR OPPONENT'S for the tribute. If you summon a higher level monster with your opponent's monster, it then gives you TWO monsters on your side of the field, unless you use the monster for Cannon Soldier or some other card effect to inflict life point damage.
BTW- what is SOUL CONTROL?
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Soul Control is using your opponents monster as tributes for Monarch's and other 5-6 Star Monsters.
 
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Digital Jedi said:
That was the point of my post. You don't need a monster. The very sentence you bolded supports that. "If" you would tribute a monster this turn. What you need when you activate Soul Exchange, is a monster on your oppopnent's side of the field. Your not going to be using Soul Exchange's for your side of the fild, so why would having a monster even matter?
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I TOTALLY disagree. The card text "if you would tribute" directly implies that instead of tributing your monster, tribute your opponent's so that you do NOT lose your monster for the tribute- NOT just using your opponent's monster when you don't have a monster on the field. Brain Control, Change of Heart, Enemy Controller are cards that allow you to use your opponent's monster for tributes without using one of your own unless you're summoning a level 7 or higher. Soul Exchange matter of factly states, instead of using your own monster for a tribute, use your opponent's and as such, requires that you have a monster on the field.
 
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HorusMaster said:
I TOTALLY disagree. The card text "if you would tribute" directly implies that instead of tributing your monster, tribute your opponent's so that you do NOT lose your monster for the tribute- NOT just using your opponent's monster when you don't have a monster on the field. Brain Control, Change of Heart, Enemy Controller are cards that allow you to use your opponent's monster for tributes without using one of your own unless you're summoning a level 7 or higher. Soul Exchange matter of factly states, instead of using your own monster for a tribute, use your opponent's and as such, requires that you have a monster on the field.
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Soul Exchange 2005-09-23 08:48:00 <Nicolas Vaca>


Soul Exchange
(Starter Decks: Yugi, Kaiba Evolution)
"Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field. When you offer your monster as a Tribute, offer the selected monster in place of 1 of your monsters. During this turn, you cannot conduct your Battle Phase."


Does this mean that I have to have a monster on my side of the field that I can use for a tribute before I can use Soul Exchange? or can I have no cards on my side of the field, activate Soul Exchange and tribute 1 of my opponents monsters and summon Jinzo.

Regards
Nicolas Vaca
Lv2 Judge


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Answer:

You DO NOT need to have a monster on your side of the field to activate "Soul Exchange."

Your scenario with "Jinzo" is legal.

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Curtis Schultz
Official UDE Netrep
CurtisSchultz_Netrep@Hotmail.com
 
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HorusMaster said:
I TOTALLY disagree. The card text "if you would tribute" directly implies that instead of tributing your monster, tribute your opponent's so that you do NOT lose your monster for the tribute- NOT just using your opponent's monster when you don't have a monster on the field. Brain Control, Change of Heart, Enemy Controller are cards that allow you to use your opponent's monster for tributes without using one of your own unless you're summoning a level 7 or higher. Soul Exchange matter of factly states, instead of using your own monster for a tribute, use your opponent's and as such, requires that you have a monster on the field.
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What are you targeting with Soul Exchange? Are you targeting a monster on your side of the field? No, your targeting a monster on your opponent's side of the field.

What is Soul Exchange granting you? Special permission to tribute your opponent's monster in place of your own.

Do you have to use the effect of Soul Exchange at activation? Do you have to use the effect at resolution? No, the condition is set up where you can use it that turn.

Do you need monster on your opponent's side of the field to activate Threatening Roar? Do you need monsters on the field to activate Waboku? Do you need to traps to be activated in order to activate Royal Decree? Do you need to know a monster is going to die to activate Last Will?

Your confusing cards that do something specifically on resolution with Soul Exchange's effect. Soul Exchange does absolutely nothing when it resolves other then set up the state for tributing the targeted monster. It doesn't affect or even look at your side of the field. It doesnt even care if you tribute anything that turn.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
Soul Exchange 2005-09-23 08:48:00 <Nicolas Vaca>


Soul Exchange
(Starter Decks: Yugi, Kaiba Evolution)
"Select 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field. When you offer your monster as a Tribute, offer the selected monster in place of 1 of your monsters. During this turn, you cannot conduct your Battle Phase."


Does this mean that I have to have a monster on my side of the field that I can use for a tribute before I can use Soul Exchange? or can I have no cards on my side of the field, activate Soul Exchange and tribute 1 of my opponents monsters and summon Jinzo.

Regards
Nicolas Vaca
Lv2 Judge


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Answer:

You DO NOT need to have a monster on your side of the field to activate "Soul Exchange."

Your scenario with "Jinzo" is legal.

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Curtis Schultz
Official UDE Netrepâ„¢
CurtisSchultz_netrep@Hotmail.com
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Well, if this is the case then the text should read "if you want to use a monster as a tribute for a card effect or summon, you can select and use a monster on your opponent's side of the field." But since it does not state that, I will stand by my stance that you MUST have a monster on your side of the field before you can use the effect of Soul Exchange, regardless. The rulings totally contradict the card text and leads me to believe that rulings that contradict card text only suit their own purposes to make the card work how they want rather than the way the card was meant to be used.
 
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