Hypothetical question related to how Jinzo and Skill Drain work.

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With Skill Drain in play, Jinzo's effect of negating Trap Cards will be negated when it's summoned since Skill Drain is a continuous Trap and takes precedence over Jinzo's effect in that case.

This brings up a point about Equip and Field Spell cards. While they're not continuous as far as card labels go, are their effects continuous in the same way Skill Drain's effect is?

For example, you have Monster A and Equip/Field Spell B. If Equip/Field Spell B is in play first, it will negate Monster A's effect when it's summoned. But if Monster A is summoned first, Equip/Field Spell B's effect will not work.
 
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Field Spell cards are Continuous effects that apply to both players equally regardless who was the player who played it.

Equip cards on the other hand are nothing like Continous Spell/Trap cards since you have to have a monster on the field first before the Equip Card is played. In that case, any effect the monster has first could apply to the Equip Card (see "Gearfried the Iron Knight"). Further, Equip cards only affect 1 monster... the one it was equipped to.

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Well, to make it clearer, let's say Skill Drain is a Field Spell Card (still the same effect) and the monster in question is Spell Canceller. If Spell Canceller is on the field first, then Skill Drain can't be activated. But if Skill Drain is on the field first, Spell Canceller's effect should theoretically be negated when it's summoned.

Now this goes against the way Equip Spells work (since they affect just the monster they're equipped to) but let's say that Skill Drain as an Equip Spell happened to still negate other monsters' effects. Would the theory from the first example still apply?
 
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If "Skill Drain" were a field spell (or even a continous spell card), then yes, that would negate "Spell Canceller" assuming it was on the field before the monster was summoned.

Your second part though just doesn't mean anything. Equip cards only affect the monster they are equipped to. Yes, it's possible to make an equip card that says "Negate the effect of any monster this card is equipped to" but that would only apply to that one.

The topic itself at this point is more "General Discussion" than "Rules" since I don't know of any Equip card that would affect monsters it isn't equipped to (and likely there won't ever be such a card by the very meaning of an equip card).

- Andrew
 
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densetsu_x said:
Field Spell cards are Continuous effects that apply to both players equally regardless who was the player who played it.

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Slightly off-topic, Isnt the exception to that "Toon World"?  The player activating Toon World pays 1000 life points to put this card into play.  Thats just not right for the opponent to be able to summon Toon's using the Field Card they didnt pay for....
 
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yes toon world is an exception. Toon monsters can only be summoned if toon world is on your side of the field. But if your opponent also has a toon world and you have a toon monster out, if you or your opponent kills the opponents toon world your toon monsters still die so toon world does affect both sides of the field and it also doesnt.
 
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densetsu_x said:
"Toon World" isn't a Field Spell though.

As for "Gravity Axe - Grarl" um... the exception to the rule?

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Equip cards can have a field effect as well as a targeting effect, and even an initial effect. Just because a card is of a certain type doesn't mean it can't have a certain type of effect/
 
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This is how I see it:
Field Effect = Continuous Effect = Field Spell Card
Continuous Effect = Continuous Spell/Trap/Monster Card

So, there is a difference between Field Effect and Continuous Effect. Field Effect are Continuous Effect. Continuous Effect are not Field Effect. But who cares, they both have the same effect. :D
 
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Raigekick said:
This is how I see it:
Field Effect = Continuous Effect = Field Spell Card
Continuous Effect = Continuous Spell/Trap/Monster Card

So, there is a difference between Field Effect and Continuous Effect. Field Effect are Continuous Effect. Continuous Effect are not Field Effect. But who cares, they both have the same effect. :D
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Nope. Harpie's Hunting Ground, for example, holds a triggered effect. Call of the Haunted has a manually activated effect as well as the destruction effect.
 
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Raijinili said:
Raigekick said:
This is how I see it:
Field Effect = Continuous Effect = Field Spell Card
Continuous Effect = Continuous Spell/Trap/Monster Card

So, there is a difference between Field Effect and Continuous Effect. Field Effect are Continuous Effect. Continuous Effect are not Field Effect. But who cares, they both have the same effect. :D
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Nope. Harpie's Hunting Ground, for example, holds a triggered effect. Call of the Haunted has a manually activated effect as well as the destruction effect.
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Well, I know cards can have multiple effects. I was just generalizing it. Field card has the same effect as a continuous effect, but we call it Field Effect because it is a field card. On the other hand, continuous effect can't have a field effect because it is not a field card. Make sense?
 
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