Hysteric Party

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frostmonarch

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Hello,
If I activated Hysteric Party and then discard a Harpy Lady to activate the Party's effect, can I special summon the Harpy Lady that I discarded to activate the Party's effects?

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And, as I wrote over in UDE, Unless they specify in the rulings that this is a once per turn use, it has all the brokenness of Butterfly Dagger Elma.

This card + (Toon) Canon Soldier (or other) + Card of Safe Return + Harpy Lady + 1 card in your hand = OTK condition that rivals Butterfly Dagger + Gearfried + Fire Princess + Moral Boost. Hmmm, I smell a deck coming....
 
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DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
And, as I wrote over in UDE, Unless they specify in the rulings that this is a once per turn use, it has all the brokenness of Butterfly Dagger Elma.

This card + (Toon) Canon Soldier (or other) + Card of Safe Return + Harpy Lady + 1 card in your hand = OTK condition that rivals Butterfly Dagger + Gearfried + Fire Princess + Moral Boost. Hmmm, I smell a deck coming....
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Entirely wrong, in that it's just a Call of the Haunted for Harpies. The effect only activates once, at activation of the card. The only reason it stays on the field is to destroy Harpie Ladies when it leaves said field. Sorry, but that's how it is.
 
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Again, without rulings it's next to impossible to be sure. However, the general concensus is that you CANNOT get the "Harpy Lady Sisters" with this card. The reasoning behind it is because it doesn't say "...cards with "Harpy Lady" in their name...". Since it specifically states "Harpy Lady" cards, that seems to limit it to only those.
 
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Just to add more info, the JERP states that it is indeed a one time Special Summon at the time of card activation.

As for whether you can use the discarded monster, it doesn't clearly say, but my guess would be yes, and being non-targeted supports that even more so.
 
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skey23 said:
See, I'm more inclined to believe the JERP than 'because so and so said so.'...lol.
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C'mon, Simon. It just make sense that it's a one-time effect. I know that Yu-Gi-Oh! rulings don't always make sense, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it will be ruled so once someone officially asks (which I'm sure a bunch of people did after this thread and the one on the UDE forum).

I know that I would rule it that way if I was in charge of the tournament unless or until it is ruled contrary.
 
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Ok, you of all people Kyhotae should know that I was arguing both sides of this particular coin on multiple forum sites. My whole point both here and there was the fact there are NO rulings for this card (in English). So arguing one side or the other was completely ludicrous. I asked for proof from the people who argued it both ways.
 
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Being that it's templated exactly the same way as Call of the Haunted and other Special Summoners and that it asks for as many Harpie Ladies as possible, don't you think the ability to Special Summon as many times as you want would be not only redundant, but highly unlikely?
 
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skey23 said:
Ok, you of all people Kyhotae should know that I was arguing both sides of this particular coin on multiple forum sites. My whole point both here and there was the fact there are NO rulings for this card (in English). So arguing one side or the other was completely ludicrous. I asked for proof from the people who argued it both ways.
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Yeah, I noticed that, but still... :dur_jedi:

I think it's pretty safe to say that it's a one-time effect. The text isn't that ambiguous, in my opinion. It's clear that the discard is the cost for activation and multiple-use cards usually have text stating they can be used more than once.
 
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It got to be a one-time effect,I mean,come on,if you can reuse the card,it broken,Beside UDE/Konami got a good reputation screwing cards and letting us down **coughcardofsanctitycough**
 
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Digital Jedi said:
Being that it's templated exactly the same way as Call of the Haunted and other Special Summoners and that it asks for as many Harpie Ladies as possible, don't you think the ability to Special Summon as many times as you want would be not only redundant, but highly unlikely?
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Well, not exactly. First the thing that throws us all off a littleis that whole "Discard one card from your hand...." It would be clearer to add "...to activate this card" But it also lacks the self destruction factor. To be more like Call, it should say something to the effect of "When the last 'Harpie Lady' summoned by this eefect is destroyed (removed from field, whatever) destroy this card. Apparently, it is the intention of the game for this card to remain on the field. The question is, to what end?? Hhhhmmmmmm.....
 
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Lets look at the card's text and how it's worded.

Text:
Discard 1 card from your hand. Special Summon as many "Harpie Lady" cards as possible from your Graveyard. When this card is removed from the field, destroy all the monsters that were Special Summoned by this card's effect.

-When a card has a cost it will be in the first sentance. Remember that costs are paid at the activation of the card.
Conclusion: You must discard a card when you activate this card, at no point after the activation of this card may you discard another card.

-When a card has multiple effects they are seperated by periods. These effects may still reference each other.
Conclusion: The effect that special summons "harpie lady" cards is seperate from the one that destroys all monsters special summoned by hysteric party's effect.

Conclusion: You may not use the effect of one Hysteric Party multiple times. Although a bit misunderstood, UDE did not screw up the wording on this card.
 
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I choose no stance on this issue.

I merely throw out this question: How can you say with any real degree of certainty that it is not a once-per-turn ignition effect?
 
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