Magical Blast

[TsunamiArmy]

Magical Blast is one of the new cards we are getting in SD6

MAGICAL BLAST
[Spell Card]
This card can only be activated when there is a Spellcaster-Type monster(s) on your side of the field. Inflict 200 points of damage to your opponent's Life Points for each Spellcaster-Type Monster on your side of the field. If this card is in your Graveyard, you may add this card to your hand instead of drawing a card from your Deck during your Draw Phase.

Now I'm not sure if my question is a ruling question or a mechanics question but here goes : If I have 3 copies of this card in my graveyard at the time I go to draw a card, am I allowed to add all 3 to my hand instead of drawing ?

 

[Jason_C]

That would appear to be an effect, not a cost. So you could conceivably skip one draw three times in that example. But I'm not sure, as there's really no mechanic defining this. I'm basing it on the fact that you can activate multiple Soul Exchanges in the same turn, and skip the same battle phase over and over.

<EDIT: Oops! I forgot, I'm banned O_O>

 

[TsunamiArmy]

If you are correct Jason (and I have no reasonto believe you are), I am so running 3 of these in a spellcaster burn deck. Warlock on the field with another spellcaster, play 3 magical blasts....I make that 4200 damage in one turn (if my maths is right)

 

[Jason_C]

If you are correct Jason (and I have no reasonto believe you are), I am so running 3 of these in a spellcaster burn deck. Warlock on the field with another spellcaster, play 3 magical blasts....I make that 4200 damage in one turn (if my maths is right)

4600. It can also be used to prevent decking out.

Dang, I keep forgetting I'm banned!

 

[slither]

There are some similar cards that also don't have any inconviniece of activating 3 with a somewhat like mechanic like for instance:

Reckless Greed
Time Seal
Offerings to the Doomed

which don't "accumulate", so id go with Jason on this

 

[Digital Jedi]

Magical Blast is one of the new cards we are getting in SD6



Now I'm not sure if my question is a ruling question or a mechanics question but here goes : If I have 3 copies of this card in my graveyard at the time I go to draw a card, am I allowed to add all 3 to my hand instead of drawing ?

I don't think you could concievably draw all three cards based on the effect text. The effect says "you may add this card to your hand instead of drawing a card from your Deck during your Draw Phase." Drawing is an action that would only occur onceper turn. If you replace this event with this effect, there is no way to replace the event again because the event is gone regardles of which choice you make. Drawing all three would require you to have three draws during the Draw Phase.

Now if the wording is to be taken literaly, you could concieveably play effects during the draw phase to trigger all three. Like maybe a couple of set Jar of Greeds. But we'd have to wait for a ruling on that one. AS it stands there is no way to replace the same event more then once.

I understand where your going with Reckless Greed, Time Seal, Offerings to the Doomed and even Soul Exchange. These effects require you to skip the very next event. The reason these don't accumilate is beacuse your only ever going to have one "next" event. If I tell you Teusday not to come into work on Thursday, and then later that same Teusday tell you to do it again, can you not come into work on Thurday twice? No, and if you tried skipping the Turday after next you'd more then likely get fired.

This differs somewhat, though. Your replacing an event with something else. Once the event or the replacement of the event has passed, then the oportunity to replace it is over.

 

[masterwoo0]

If I tell you Teusday not to come into work on Thursday, and then later that same Teusday tell you to do it again, can you not come into work on Thurday twice? No, and if you tried skipping the Turday after next you'd more then likely get fired.

Just a little light hearted humor....

I don't think he would be fired since he cant come in on at least 2 of these days, and one of them he was never there to be told not to come in... lol :icon_mrgr

 

[Digital Jedi]

Hey! I never claimed to be a spellyologist. I'm a mathemagician.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

It should all come down to waht kind of effect it is:

Ignition-like effect; it would only be able to activate once, as when a pre-draw event is forced, there can only be that one chain, you would not be able to activate it again.

optional-trigger effect; you would be chaining all 3 to each other, so when the 2nd one (or third one) is activated the event hasn't passed yet.


Standby-phase/End-phase type trigger effect: (trying to keep an open mind, and not assuming that its the standby and end phases themself that work differently) You wouldn't be able to proceed to drawing, until all effects have been decided upon, so then you would be able to activate all 3 separately.

 

[Digital Jedi]

However, Optional-Trigger still would imply that that a single event is being replaced by three effects. It still isn't possible. When the first effect replaced the event, there would no way for anymore effects to replace the event regardless of the chain. Imagine if it were a Normal Summon or an attack being replaced by an effect. Once the event gets replaced, what are the other two effects replacing?

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

However, Optional-Trigger still would imply that that a single event is being replaced by three effects. It still isn't possible. When the first effect replaced the event, there would no way for anymore effects to replace the event regardless of the chain. Imagine if it were a Normal Summon or an attack being replaced by an effect. Once the event gets replaced, what are the other two effects replacing?

How could the event be replaced before the card is even activated, or triggered?

The cards would all be correct at activation, therefore the effects resolve as much as possible. You can use 3 Draining Shields and gain lifepoints 3 times even though the attack can be negated only once.

Similarly, you can't perform your once per turn draw in the draw phase in the middle of a chain/effect resolving. The drawing thus hasn't been missed yet while the others are still resolving.

Now if the card isn't added to your hand at resolution, i.e. its delayed until the actual draw happens, it would be different Reasoning then above. However, i would think since they are all trying to resolve simultaneously they could still go all at once.

 

[Digital Jedi]

How could the event be replaced before the card is even activated, or triggered?

The cards would all be correct at activation, therefore the effects resolve as much as possible. You can use 3 Draining Shields and gain lifepoints 3 times even though the attack can be negated only once.

Draining sheild, however, is not a replacment effect. Three Draining Shields activated in response to the same attack negates the attack and negates it only once. The Life Gain doesn't replace the event. The Life Gain occurs no matter what, as long as an attavk was declare. This is just like replacing or doubling Battle Damage. No matter how many times an effect tells you to do it, your still only going to get to do it once.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

This is just like replacing or doubling Battle Damage.

I agree.

No matter how many times an effect tells you to do it, your still only going to get to do it once.

The result might make it look like it only happened once but all effects happen simultaneously.

So if you activate Cross Counter when your opponent attacks your Stone Statue of the Aztecs with Kycco the ghost Destroyer Virus, first you calculate damage normally, (2000 Def- 1800 ATk = 200 lifepoints damage). Both Cross Counter and Stone Statue of theaztecs will double that damage (not each other)

So Stone statue says 200 x 2 = 400
Cross Counter says 200 x 2= 400.
Both cards agree that 200 x 2 = 400 so 400 damage is inflicted.

You equip your Amazoness Swords Woman (A) with Axe of Despair, then it attacks your opponent's Amazoness Swords Woman (B). Calculate the damage (2500 -1500 = 1000 against player B.)

Amazoness Swords Woman (A) sees that its controller is taking 0 damage, so it redirects 0 damage to its (and your) opponent. Amazoness Swords Woman (B) sees that its controller is taking 1000 damage, so it redirects 1000 damage to you.

You take 1000 damage. Both amazonesses redirected battle damage, but because they did it at the exact same time, it wasn't the same battle damage being redirected twice.

And similarly if you attack your opponents Stone Statue of the Aztecs with Amazoness Swords Woman your opponent will take 1000 damage ( 2x[2000-1500] ). Both effect try to modify the battle damage at the exact same time.

But Magical Blast adds "this card" to your hand, so adding one will not satisfy the conditions of all 3 cards, and so all 3 should be added if they resolve concurrently. (had the card only asked you to add 1 magical blast to your hand, then you could have satisfied all 3 with that one action.)

 

[Digital Jedi]

Add "this card" instead of drawing a card from your deck. How can you add this card and this and this card instead of drawing a card fomr your deck? I just don't see it.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Add "this card" instead of drawing a card from your deck. How can you add this card and this and this card instead of drawing a card fomr your deck? I just don't see it.

I'm supposed to be doing my homework right now. (Well i'm not enrolled in school at the moment for argument's sake)

But i can be playing my gameboy with one hand while listening to TV, and chatting with my freind all at the same time.

That's 3 things i'm doing instead of doing my homework.

And if i had 3 hand i could be playing 3 gameboys at once. So i certainly could do the same thing 3 times at once, instead of doing something else.

 

[masterwoo0]

Totally irrelevant to the situation.

"This Card" returned to hand instead of drawing, can only happen once per turn.

If that were the case, you could have 2 Freed the Matchless General's on the field and use both of their effects to get 2 Warriors.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

I though Freed the Matchless General was ruled to be an ignition effect somewhere.
So you can't even activate the effects of 2 freeds.

(although the current ruling says optional, it doesn't say ignition nor trigger, and the current ruling only says you can't add 2 warriors to your hand, it doesn't say you can't activate both effects.)

If i were to bet on it i'd say that Magical BLast Will be ruled an ignition-like effect, but the existance of Freed does not confirm that its ruling will match Freed's ruling. They could be 2 different types of effects.

 

[Digital Jedi]

I'm supposed to be doing my homework right now. (Well i'm not enrolled in school at the moment for argument's sake)

But i can be playing my gameboy with one hand while listening to TV, and chatting with my freind all at the same time.

That's 3 things i'm doing instead of doing my homework.

And if i had 3 hand i could be playing 3 gameboys at once. So i certainly could do the same thing 3 times at once, instead of doing something else.

Yet, the three effects are not asking you to play your Game Boy, chat with your girlfriend and listen to the TV instead of doing your homework. They are asking you to watch TV, watch TV and watch TV instead of doing your homework.

"DaGuy, it's Wensday, instead of coming into work on Thursday, stay home."

The Boss:
"Don't come into work on Thursday, your getting fired that day."

The General Manager:
"Don't come into work on Thursday, your getting fired that day."

The District Mnager:
"Don't come into work on Thursday, your getting fired that day."

No matter how many times people fire you on Wensday, your still only get fired once and on Thursday.

 

[TsunamiArmy]

Hmm...I'll just have to wait on see how things play out at UDE about this card