Master Monk

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Master Monk vs Book of Moon or Tsukuyomi 2006-03-30 15:59:00 <James Johnson>


1. Okay, Master Monk's effect allows him to attack twice in the same Battle Phase,
but not necessarily back to back, so he can attack, then let another monster
attack, and resume Battle himself.

That being said, if Master Monk attacks a monster, and after the Damage
Calculation is complete, my opponent activates Book of Moon to flip him
face-down, does this reset his effect if he is somehow flipped face-up in attack,
allowing him to again attack twice in the same Battle face, ignoring the fact
that he already attacked once,

or

Will he only be able to carry out his second attack, if he can still attack
at all?

2. Same scenario as above, only substitute attacking a face-down Tsukuyomi.

Thanks!

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If you attack once (or twice), and then after the attack "Master Monk" is flipped-face down by "Tsukuyomi" or "Book of Moon",
you could activate "Desert Sunlight" then "Final Attack Orders" and attack 2 more times.

Dan Scheidegger
Jr. Game Designer
Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG R&D
Upper Deck Entertainment
 
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skey23 said:
I asked that question on the List waaay back when I first started on this forums, but I can't find the response I got back from Curtis to save my life! I have posted a response to this ruling asking exactly that....what would happen if a 'normal' monster were to have been flip-flopped.
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LMAO

Now you can use your new Rank to experience what John does for us on a regular!!!
 
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masterwoo0 said:
LMAO

Now you can use your new Rank to experience what John does for us on a regular!!!
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I wish! I won't be able to do that for a few weeks, from what I understand...lol. Suck.

I was really hoping I could start posting to the L3 List like IMMEDIATELY....lol. They're gonna HATE me!....lol.
 
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slither said:
I thought that there was no argument of whether or not the normal attack was able to be reset O.O, I thought we all aGreed that it did not...
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Correct, 'WE' all aGreed it didn't, but apparently somebody forgot to tell that to UDE...lol, because this ruling seems to indicate otherwise...lol.
 
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skey23 said:
Correct, 'WE' all aGreed it didn't, but apparently somebody forgot to tell that to UDE...lol, because this ruling seems to indicate otherwise...lol.
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Hmmm, and suddenly everything went horribly wrong...

Are we talking about monsters that have effects allowing them to attack twice, or are we talking about monsters that do not have the ability to do anything more than attack once per turn?

I'm sensing a disconnect here...

I mean, the message as I interpret it is only saying that Master Monk's effect resets, and allows him to once again declare attacks.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
Hmmm, and suddenly everything went horribly wrong...

Are we talking about monsters that have effects allowing them to attack twice, or are we talking about monsters that do not have the ability to do anything more than attack once per turn?

I'm sensing a disconnect here...

I mean, the message as I interpret it is only saying that Master Monk's effect resets, and allows him to once again declare attacks.
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That is where I got lost as well =P
 
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If the spanish Judges List message stands as well as the message concerning Master Monk's twin attack reset, then Master Monk gets to attack two more times once flip-flopped because his effect is special. And the mechanic that grants you one attack per turn is not something that can be reset from a flip-flop.
 
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My confusion lies in whether Master Monk's effect actually gives him 2 attacks by effect or is it simply an extention of the normal attack allowing him to attack again.

It is a Continuous Effect (almost like a built-in condition) and i felt that it was simply a modification to his existing normal 1 attack per turn. So he would actually have to able to attack for him to use the extra attack. So flip flopping would reset his inherent ability to attack (along with every other monster), and thus giving him 2 more attacks with the effect.

My thinking is probably all wrong, and this is simply an effect reset of sorts (not really a reset, just that it a face-up effect with a counter) that overrides the one attack mechanic. Plus the battle position change hole DaGuy is refering to is also a consideration.
 
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Personally I do not see how that makes sense, but whatever. I mean I can understand the logic of entering Main 2 and not being able to flip it face-up. It declared an attack. Well..... I guess it SORT OF makes sense.
 
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