Mind conrtol and night mare wheel

[abaddon]

here a quest i just want to make double sure of before i keep mind control in my deck, can mind control target facedown monsters?

as for night marewheel since it can target face down mosnters, if i book of moon a monster equip with nightmare wheel it stay equiped? or dose it get destoryed?

 

[densetsu_x]

1) :Mind Control" can target a face down monster. That and "Change of Heart" are currently the only 2 who can and let you take control.

2) "Nightmare Wheel" will still target the face down monster and not be destroyed.

 

[masterwoo0]

here a quest i just want to make double sure of before i keep mind control in my deck, can mind control target facedown monsters?

as for night marewheel since it can target face down mosnters, if i book of moon a monster equip with nightmare wheel it stay equiped? or dose it get destoryed?

"Take control of 1 monster on your opponents..." It can be face-up or down.


Nightmare Wheel still affects the monster it targets regardless of position.

 

[skey23]

For densetsu_x...What about "Creature Swap"? It can target a face down card.

For abaddon...."Nightmare Wheel" is a Continuous Trap card. It does not care if the card it is 'restricting' or 'attached to' is face-up or face-down.

Only Equip Spell cards would care (in this scenario) if the monster was flipped face-down.

 

[densetsu_x]

Um... I wasn't considering "Creature Swap" in the same vein as "Change of Heart", "Mind Control", "Enemy Controller", and "Snatch Steal"? Maybe? No? Um, "Creature Swap" doesn't target? Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[skey23]

Um... I wasn't considering "Creature Swap" in the same vein as "Change of Heart", "Mind Control", "Enemy Controller", and "Snatch Steal"? Maybe? No? Um, "Creature Swap" doesn't target? Yeah, that's the ticket.

lol. That's funny.

 

[Digital Jedi]

as for night marewheel since it can target face down mosnters, if i Book of Moon a monster equip with Nightmare Wheel it stay equiped? or dose it get destoryed?

And I'm not being picky here, I just want to clarify something that was more or less stated by others. Nightmare Wheel only targets the selected monster, it does not equip to it. It seems like I'm nitpicking, but in reality only Equip Cards "equip" to monsters. And then only face-up (Relinquished and TER notwithstanding). I think it best not to refer to continuous cards that don't equip, like Nightmare Wheel and Call of the Haunted and others that continuously target a monster, as "equiping."

 

[StRiKe_NiNjA]

And I'm not being picky here, I just want to clarify something that was more or less stated by others. Nightmare Wheel only targets the selected monster, it does not equip to it. It seems like I'm nitpicking, but in reality only Equip Cards "equip" to monsters. And then only face-up (Relinquished and TER notwithstanding). I think it best not to refer to continuous cards that don't equip, like Nightmare Wheel and Call of the Haunted and others that continuously target a monster, as "equiping."

Are you sure it targets? I haven't heard of any Continuos Spell or Trap that actually "targets". Hence, Mass Driver and Call of the Haunted if already resolved would target if this case were true.

 

[Digital Jedi]

Are you sure it targets? I haven't heard of any Continuos Spell or Trap that actually "targets". Hence, Mass Driver and Call of the Haunted if already resolved would target if this case were true.

Pretty Sure. LOL From the FAQ: "Nightmare Wheel" targets. You select the monster when "Nightmare Wheel" is activated.

"Nightmare Wheel" is NOT destroyed if the monster is flipped face-down. "Nightmare Wheel" continues to target the monster, inflict damage, and prevent the monster from attacking or changing battle position.

 

[StRiKe_NiNjA]

Pretty Sure. LOL From the FAQ: "Nightmare Wheel" targets. You select the monster when "Nightmare Wheel" is activated.

"Nightmare Wheel" is NOT destroyed if the monster is flipped face-down. "Nightmare Wheel" continues to target the monster, inflict damage, and prevent the monster from attacking or changing battle position.

LoL! Well that simply knocks me off my feet.

It has me wondering though. When do Continuos Effects target? Or in a sense "continues to target".

I've always thought Call of the Haunted only target when the effect is first activated. After Call of the Haunted resolves, an effect is placed onto the monster to determine what Call of the Haunted is "linked to". Or Nightmare Wheel in this matter. I thought only Nightmare Whell targets on activation.

Maybe I'm just thinking too much. LoL. But in reality, if Nightmare Wheel targets, wouldn't this change a couple of situations?

 

[chaosruler]

Strike - Just to try to help, I figured out that Call of the Haunted continually targets, because if you try to Call of the Haunted a Spirit Reaper, it is destroyed upon resolution of Call of the Haunted.

-chaosruler

 

[StRiKe_NiNjA]

Strike - Just to try to help, I figured out that Call of the Haunted continually targets, because if you try to Call of the Haunted a Spirit Reaper, it is destroyed upon resolution of Call of the Haunted.

-chaosruler

Ah, a perfect example! Just what I was looking for. Thanks chaosruler , I was flipping through my notebook seeing if there any cards that seem to Continually Target, I was about to go nuts. LoL

 

[John Danker]

I think we were discussing this topic in another thread recently as it applies to monsters that cannot be destroyed by the effect of a card that targets....so if that monster were equip. with Premature Burial or Call of the Haunted it makes quite a difference. If Premature Burial or Call of the Haunted are destroyed the monster would remain on the field.