reflect bounder vs: sinister serpent

[Javario]

if I attack with sinister serpent against reflect bouder.during damage calculation wouldn't I only take 300 damage?

I ask this cause it says his effect is used as effec damage not battle. Of course i'm not even looking at the card just going off memory. But am I right.

-Javario

 

[krazykidpsx]

you would take 300 then you would take 1400 becasue the difference from that and ss is that high.

after calculations though Bounder would kill itself.

 

[Javario]

i know he would die but I failed to realize that I would take so much. I know for any other monster I could just take damage in difference of attack. But I thought that cause of his effect I would only take 300. I''m still in the dark on this subject. I'll beleive you but keep my options on answers open.

-Javario

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Reflect Bounders effect doesn't stop damage calculation. It deals effect damage before damage calculation takes place.

 

[krazykidpsx]

well the reason why this happens is because it doesnt skip damage calculations.

what it does is go.

"Im being attacked! before getting to calculations let me see the monster? "

"aww 300 attackers i see, okay before we continue on you will take 300 damage "

"Now lets go to damage calculations, AAAAH! i see your only 300 compared to my 1700 "

"You will take 1400 and you go to the graveyard, but in a few ill see you there my self because i feel like going there with you "

its a short story in the life that Reflect bounder takes when it is in face up attack.

 

[OKShadow]

So technically IFL vs Bounder you could take only 400 damage from Bounder's effect and then crush him with leftovers by using her effect during damage step.

 

[krazykidpsx]

yep yep, because Bounders effect happens before damage step.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Reflect Bounders effect happens during the damage step. Just at a time before Attack and DEF modifiers can be activated.