Reinforcements of the Army

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frostmonarch

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When you play reinforcements of the army, do you have to declare what card you are getting from your deck before you search your deck to move the warrior to your hand? I had a low level judge tell me that you had to, but I have seen no ruling that I had to, and I have never run into this problem before. I do not agree with the judges ruling. How do you know what you are going to choose without looking through your deck?

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It is not targeted, and know you do not have to declare what monster you are looking for.

The effect itself clearly states what you are looking for, "1 Level 4 or lower Warrior-Type monster"

If you search and not find, you show your Deck to prove it.
 
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as well as far as I know, and the way I have always played it, you do not have to declare the name of the warrior that you are going to search, you can make that decision while you are searching. This is the same way I've treated Sangan's search effect. You get to see what your options are and then pick one. If you do not have any more warriors in your deck that could be searched by Reinforcement of the Army, you show your deck to your opponent (or a judge) to confirm and then it is shuffled. Not a big deal really. The card says "move 1 level 4 or lower warrior from your deck to your hand", not "declare the name of 1 level 4 or lower warrior then move that card to your hand".
 
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You do. You have to show your opponent anytime you search for a card from your deck.

The only exception I can think of to that is Different Dimension Capsule, which doesnt specify any particular kind of monster, spell, or trap. Just a card. And the fact that its to be put face down also reinforces the notion that your opponent isnt supposed to know what it is.
 
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hmm yea thats what i thought......

unless digitaljedi and novastar are saying that u dont have to declare what you are getting
but you can find what u are getting then reveal once chosen??
 
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yea thats what i thought

but thats so minor
declaration vs what you've chosen is too similar

if you need to show what you've chosen, its almost the same as declaration
 
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well, you don't declare at activation, because you aren't allowed to know the contents of your deck, so you search, pull your card of choice, then reveal it to prove to your opponent that it fits the conditions.

-chaosruler
 
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that card you pulled out by "choice" and then revealing it, doesnt that technically reveal the contents of your deck?

also, you cant declare anything thats not a level 4 or lower warrior
so the only problem i see is that, if you blurted out the incorrect card(warrior level 4 or lower), then choosing the one u intended to get. but wouldnt that be your mistake?

because a lot of situation the player uses Reinforcements of the army, thinking i need *blank* whether it being exile to rid of that magician or big shield gaurdna to bluff the other player to protect ur magician, or even a zombyra to kill a V lord.

The player should have an initial thought, and if you are skilled enough, you should know what cards you have left in your deck, and knowing what is needed for that situation

it doesnt really mater, i know how the card works, im just arguing nothing really......
 
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I meant that in the sense that the contents of your deck aren't common knowledge for either player. Also, if you forgot you already used your Exiled, you can go pull something else that'll fit the bill. Also, when I said card of choice, I meant within RotA's guidelines. And, no, pulling a Level 4 or lower Warrior is not revealing the contents of your deck.

-chaosruler
 
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It reveals the content of your deck, but then you shuffle it again to rearrange the contents.

What could happen, is that if a player knowingly does not have 4 star warriors in their deck still and is in a bad draw situation, they would use Reinforcements as an excuse to shuffle their deck.

At least that's how I've always seen it with these situations. The fact that you have to show your deck to your opponent to prove there are none seems to be an adequate deterrant to the issue.
 
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well if the deck isnt common knowledge to either player then i guess, yea u should look through it then decide....
but usually the deck that uses RotA knows their deck well, and often check their graveyard to see what resources are used........which most warrior players should do., so if pulling a Level 4 or lower Warrior is not revealing the contents of your deck, can you blurt out any level 4 or lower warrior during activatoin??
 
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the player may know, but for purposes of the games (official purposes), he knows not what his deck contains. [/Yoda voice] Anyway, that's the same reason why you can discard Thunder Dragon even if you pulled 2 more, just to shuffle/discard a light.

-chaosruler
 
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