Silent Swordsman LV5

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Thanks Digital for the clarification, I got confused since it does no include the part of being on the field in the text.

This card is unaffected by your opponent's Spell Cards. If this card successfully attacks your opponent's Life Points directly, during your next Standby Phase, send this face-up card to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Silent Swordsman LV7" from your hand or Deck.

This caused a lot of discucions here, some were alegating that it could not be discarded by Delinquent Duo

Is there som errata or clarificating rulig on this card?.
 
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Blackscorp said:
Thanks Digital for the clarification, I got confused since it does no include the part of being on the field in the text.

This card is unaffected by your opponent's Spell Cards. If this card successfully attacks your opponent's Life Points directly, during your next Standby Phase, send this face-up card to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Silent Swordsman LV7" from your hand or Deck.

This caused a lot of discucions here, some were alegating that it could not be discarded by Delinquent Duo

Is there som errata or clarificating rulig on this card?.
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No, I'm afraid it's just a case of inconsistancy. I don't see how from the card text alone how Elemental Mistress Doriado's effect apllies to the hand and Graveyard, but this is how she 's been ruled. People who know me know one of my pet peeves is cards not saying what they mean and meaning what they say, but it is an unfortunate reoccurance in the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG.

A general rule of thumb when looking at these effects is to check the card text first and the rulings second (and the Judge's List third if neccassary). If niether of those say anything about the effect working someplace other then the field, then it only apllys to the field by default.
 
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I'm done with you Rai.


My original point, in case there was some true misunderstanding over what I was trying to say, was that I dont find the respective "This cards name is treated as..." cards as being consistant with the rest of the cards in the game. I don't find the handfull of cards that have this condition, and others simlar to it, as being clear as to how the effect works, other then in a ruling. I would like it better if there were a clear templating distinguishing them from the more common effect text that is only active on the field. Like a box, a change in font or simple statement at the begining of the effect like "CONDITION:"

But, I belive I already said that .
 
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Well, that's just one of the MANY text differences between Vs. System and Yu-Gi-Oh!. Oh well, Vs. templating is far more structured, where they actually use Bolded Keywords for certain abilities. Alas, it is not such in Yu-Gi-Oh!. I guess you'll just have to live with it, no offense intended Mark.

-John
 
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No offense taken, John. In the beginning I was just expressing to Blackscorp how text is inconsistantly clear as to whether an effect is a condition or not. But if there is one thing that is consistant in Yu-Gi-Oh!, it is inconsistancy.
 
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Unless explicitly stated otherwise, cards in the hand have no effect, at least that is what I thought. The exception is cards that are considered named as another card. But I think it is silly that they have five different Harpie Ladies and you can only play with a total of 3 'Harpie Lady' cards in a deck.

Anyway, on the subject again, I think in the hand and deck it would have no effect, so to keep consistent in the graveyard it would be vulnerable....which brings up a question:
If you used Autonomous Action Unit on your opponents SS LV5 in the graveyard, and it came to your field, how would that affect automomous action unit? Does it have to be "opponent's" when on the field or by ownership of the card itself (which deck it came from). The question I guess is does AAU become like CotH would with Jinzo as to where if it were destroyed SS LV5 would remain or go back to the graveyard. And for that matter, would you be able to Snatch Steal it to your side of the field if you were the original owner?

BTW, nice avatar, ChaosRuler. I assume you modified that image yourself, and I wish I had done it first. (in case it changes by the time you see this I'm refering to the BLS wearing the RoD necklace) Cool.

EDIT: the autolinking answered my 1st question
(AAU - SS LV5 = CotH - Jinzo)
but what about Snatch Steal? I assume you couldn't. ????
 
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My original point, in case there was some true misunderstanding over what I was trying to say, was that I dont find the respective "This cards name is treated as..." cards as being consistant with the rest of the cards in the game. I don't find the handfull of cards that have this condition, and others simlar to it, as being clear as to how the effect works, other then in a ruling. I would like it better if there were a clear templating distinguishing them from the more common effect text that is only active on the field. Like a box, a change in font or simple statement at the begining of the effect like "CONDITION:"
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The only thing it's inconsistent with is sense. It's certainly consistent with the rest of the game.

Much of the game is consistent in this way. Last Turn, for one. Optional Triggers, for another. Neither of these are explained in the rulebook. And how about the tiny difference in wording between Drilloid and Sasuke Samurai that give their effects different timing?

The one thing we have going for us about Doriado is the fact that it has a precedence. For example, it's a lot more clear that Cyber Harpie would count as a Harpie Lady in the graveyard, using logic (not terribly more, but considerably).
 
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