super bad damage cards

crh1985

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I got a metalmorph the is damaged almost beyond recitation

At lest 98%+ of the purple is gone and bent all over



There is no effect left but a few non consistent words



The picture is all gone but small pieces of the helm (witch is barely seeable at a distance)



The only thing that is together is the # of the card (68540058) and the yu-gi-oh stamp



Can I use this card in a tournament?


(i'm not a great speller or reader so if i got a words or 2 wrong sorry, and yes i used spell check)
 
It's not really my call to make, but I'd say that if a card isn't recognizable within reason, that you couldn't use it in a sanctioned tournament. I'd imagine that this would be something similar to using overly reflective sleeves. And if you wouldn't be allowed to use those since it would be hard to recognize a card from a distance, it'd be even less acceptable to have a card in such bad condition that you coudn't even recognize it up close.
 
The real question would be if the card is recognizable within the deck. And if it's recognizable enough for your opponent to know what it is and what it does. If the damage doesnt distinguish it from the rest of the cards in the deck while it is in the deck (frayed edges that can be seen or felt from the side, a card that's gone through the washing machine and is sifter then the rest of the deck, etc) making it easier to identify whilst in the deck, then most Head Judges would allow it. Now if it's so faded that people have to ask what it used to be, then that would be problem.
 
As a Head Judge, I would want to be able read the card name and the card effect and recognize the picture. Otherwise, I would ask you to swap the card for a better one.

The card number is 100% irrelevant to the use of the card. I don't know of a single judge that has ever attempted to read the card number or cross reference it to a card name.

The holofoil stamp is only used to help confirm the legitimacy of a card.

As stated by other deulists, the condition of the card should not make it identifiable when placed in a sleeve. If folds and frayed edges make it identifiable, it becomes a "marked card" and is not legal for sanctioned play.

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I'm not a judge, but to me I think it's an opinion call based mainly on the situation in which the card is played.

If you're in a very casual tournament with a bunch of younger players, and everyone is there purely for the enjoyment of playing, then I feel simply being able to recognize the card name should be enough, assuming that either the effect is readable or some impartial third source *coughnetrepcough* can verify the effect.

Now, if you're at a regionals and people are trying to get invites, I would want to see the name, the effect, the holofoil stamp, and at least 90% of the picture, plus the logo on the back, to ensure the card's legitimacy.
 
Jason_C said:
I'm not a judge, but to me I think it's an opinion call based mainly on the situation in which the card is played.

If you're in a very casual tournament with a bunch of younger players....
Okay, from that point, there is nothing at stake. No one stands to win or lose anything other than their pride (if that is important).

I have seen more player's using Proxies in these "Casual Tourney's". Granted, if I have to pay to play, whether its Casual or a Major Event, then the rules change. If I cant make out my opponents card, and it doesnt have the Eye of Anubis, a recognizable picture and name, and everything else about it is pretty washed out as well, I would hope that the player would simply avoid using the card, rather than me have to call a Judge over to tell them that the card is unplayable.

'98% Damaged" is 2% step away from being 100% garbage. You might as well be asking if you can play with only the piece of the card that has the Card Name, with the rest ripped away.
 
If its any indicator on how pristine cards need to be for high level tournaments, consider this. There was an article in metagame a while back talking about how people gyp themselves out of tournaments and one of them was autographed cards because they have the potential to disrupt how a card is read and can cause issues with the tournament. 8^D
 
masterwoo0 said:
'98% Damaged" is 2% step away from being 100% garbage. You might as well be asking if you can play with only the piece of the card that has the Card Name, with the rest ripped away.

LOL!! easier to write the name of the card in a piece of paper :D
 
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