The Immortal of Thunder

[Digital Jedi]

I think it's safe to assume that The Immortal of Thunder is a Graveyard activated effect? Same for Granadora.

 

[skey23]

I would agree on both.

 

[chaos general]

Yeah, it's definitely a graveyard effect.

 

[masterwoo0]

Which is why even if you give it to your opponent by the effect of Creature Swap, after you flip it face-up, you still take the 5000 damage when it goes to the Graveyard because it is going to YOUR Graveyard.

 

[NLFW]

immortal's loss of LP is not damage...

 

[Digital Jedi]

Right, only Grandaors is Direct Damage.

Okay, thatnks guys. Something about The Immortals' text leaves me feeling ... funny. Just wanted to make sure.

 

[masterwoo0]

immortal's loss of LP is not damage...

While it is true it isnt "damage", the message is still clear, you LOSE 5000 when it goes to YOUR Graveyard, do you not?

And in my mind, any time I lose life points, whether I can activate an effect against it or not, I still think of it as "damage".

 

[Digital Jedi]

No, but it is important to maintain that distinction, since that means that the Barrel Behind the Door and Trap of Board Eraser can't deflect it. Nor can Des Wombat buffer it.

 

[masterwoo0]

Your absolutely right. But you cant tell me that if you have that happen to you, that losing 5000 life points is just going to be, "Oh well, I lost 5000", without feeling like it is damage.

I already said that I know I cant use an effect against it when it occurs, but "I" still dont accept it as going from 8000 to 3000 and "poof", your turn, nothing to see here, move along.... :duel_no_j

 

[SoilentG]

So it looks like The Immortal's effect is only good if you have Compulsory Evacuation Device set and it's your turn (not in your opponents battle phase) or if either you or your opponent has Dimensional Fissure, Macro Cosmo, Banisher of... etc. face up... man, I wish his effect had "damage" instead of "lose" in it...