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Chillout1984

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A lot of LV2 judges here in the Netherlands say that you may write on the front of the card as long as most of the card is still visible.

I disagree with that, because everything that changes the card is considered "Marking" but the others don't believe me.

Are they correct or am I correct?
 
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But isn't it true that whenever you write on the card, you can feel a difference on the front or the back? (because you pushed the pen a little to hard or something).

This doesn't sound very logical to me.
 
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There has been a HUGE trend toward that in the U.S. as well. We saw a great deal of it at the last SJC in Chicago. We didn't tell the players to change out the cards, however, rumor among the judges was that UDE may in the next policy statement due out in Oct. 2006, disallow any card that has any modification. As I said, it was just rumor so don't go quoting me saying, "Danker said they are changing that in Oct."...I didn't say that! I said it is RUMOR. I just wanted to bring it up because I don't want people paying good money for cards, expressing themselves by their artwork, and then having those cards be unplayable.

If it were my choice I wouldn't allow the practice. It was often difficult to just look down and tell what card was being played without reading the text....that shouldn't be so. A judge should be able to walk by and understand what's going on in a game at a glance...that means the cards themselves AND the layout of the playing field. If a judge can't do so then the situation needs to be remedied.
 
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Chillout1984 said:
But isn't it true that whenever you write on the card, you can feel a difference on the front or the back? (because you pushed the pen a little to hard or something).

This doesn't sound very logical to me.
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Most of it we have seen is being done with magic marker...or even air brushed.
 
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Chillout1984 said:
Yeah, but where I live they do it with a normal pen.
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Yeah, the normal pen thing should not be done, and certainly not allowed. As John stated, I've always seen them signed and/or marked with Sharpee type markers.
 
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skey23 said:
Yeah, the normal pen thing should not be done, and certainly not allowed. As John stated, I've always seen them signed and/or marked with Sharpee type markers.
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Yeah... I got a Cyber Dragon signed by Terrel Owens!!! j/k lol
 
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I just do not get the big deal if it is on the front. Why would it matter if someone wrote an equation on the image or put a signature on the card art? You mean to tell me you cannot bother to bend over a little bit just to read the darn name on the card?
 
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Tiso said:
I just do not get the big deal if it is on the front. Why would it matter if someone wrote an equation on the image or put a signature on the card art? You mean to tell me you cannot bother to bend over a little bit just to read the darn name on the card?
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Come on now, Tiso...you know Humans are mostly visual creatures...lol. We recognize things by site more often than not. So if I can't walk up to the table, and look at the cards and immediately know that "Sangan" is behind the giant mustache and pointy devilish beard and black sunglasses, then I'm gonna say something....lol.

And who would know what "Majo de la Fe" is off the top of thier heads?...lol. ("Magician of Faith", btw...lol.)
 
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Tiso said:
I just do not get the big deal if it is on the front. Why would it matter if someone wrote an equation on the image or put a signature on the card art? You mean to tell me you cannot bother to bend over a little bit just to read the darn name on the card?
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You mean to tell me that you don't have any other form of expression than writing on a Yugioh card? <teasing smile> I'm walking around trying to keep an eye on 150+ matches....I don't WANT to have to stop at half of them to and bend over a little to see what the card is....9 rounds, 30 matches where I have to stop each one to recognize a card.....that's 270 times I have to take time out to see if something is amiss in a day and taking time away from making rulings while players are upset I'm not at their table immediately.....so yeah, I'm telling you that I cannot bother to bend over a little bit to read the darn name on the card.
 
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If the print is written with a marker there usually isn't a problem. It is common to have signed cards in VS. I have a few that were signed by the artist. There hasn't been anything said in tournaments I attend. This included PCQ's and 10ks. They weren't a probably at the PC either although I didn't attend it.
 
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My understanding is that if you press hard enough to make an imprint on the back, then you have marked your card and it cannot be used at an official tournament. If only the face is marked, and it doesn't press through to the back, you should be fine.

The collector in me thinks it's ridiculous to write on your cards in any fashion.
 
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Mine our mostly commons like a foil flying kick and others. Although I have seen a few rares that have been signed. It doesn't drop or up the value any because they are still playable. I'll probably get a lot more sign in July. It's not like these people who get a friend to sign it or color the pitcure. The ones with the picture colored in should be illegal because it covers most of the art. A signiture doesn't do this that much. You are stilll able to see what the card is. Most Vs players treat their cards with respect. Well the ones I have met anyways.
 
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John, I don't know if you got to talk to Chris much but since he was Head of Deck checks, he ran into all kinds of problems with marking of cards.

First, all duelists should familiarize themselves with item 12, paragraph 2 in UDE tournament policy. Where it says "players will not apply decorations [or markings] that obscure a significant portion of the card's image or text", most judges will not tolerate any writing or artwork that obscures any portion of the effect text. If judges can't read the text because you have obscured it, you can't use the card!

Next, don't alter the name or Stats of a card. As a judge the only reasons I can see for a player to alter the name of the card or it's stats is either stupidity or to cause confusion. One player wrote "#2" immediately behind the title of his "Morphing Jar" monster card. Don't ask me why he did this? "Morphing Jar" and "Morphing Jar #2" are 2 different cards. Needless to say, he had to replace the card.

Signed cards were allowed. However, if there were ballpoint pen marks that showed up through the card back that could be felt or seen with sleeves, then the card is considered "marked" and unuseable for tournament play.

Coloring of the artwork or the face of the card is the most difficult to call because there is some subjectivity to it. It is up to the judge. In general, I would avoid any markings altogether.

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ygo doc was at the last SJC in Chicago as well, he saw just how much this trend has spread. I seriously would be shocked if UDE didn't address it in the near future and enforce the policy on a much tighter basis. So I'd save my creative juices for some other media if I were you folks.
 
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