Call and RoD

[Dr Sin]

Hi,

Two questions:

1) I've read at metagame.com an article from Curtis Schultz, and he gave the following situation as an example: you use Call of the Haunted to bring Sangan back and then tribute it for Airknight Parshath... Call of the Haunted stays on the field without effect until it's destroyed. Is it right? I don't think so.

2) I summon Exiled Force, declare priority and tribute it to destroy my opponent's BLS. My opponent tries to respond with Ring of Destruction targeting my EF. I understand that the effect is activated and he wasted his Ring, because no damage is done, since EF is already in the grave, right? RoD's target is designed at the time of activation, not resolution, right? So he made a mistake and could not target another monster on the field, right?

Thanks in advance

 

[Jathro]

1. He is right. In this case, because Sangan is removed from the field by a game mechanic, Call of the Haunted will remain on the field meaninglessly.

2. Right. Exiled Force will have already resolved and destroyed BLS and is no longer a legal target. Shame on your opponent for wasting his/her Ring.

 

[Duelmaster]

Hi,

Two questions:

1) I've read at metagame.com an article from Curtis Schultz, and he gave the following situation as an example: you use Call of the Haunted to bring Sangan back and then tribute it for Airknight Parshath... Call of the Haunted stays on the field without effect until it's destroyed. Is it right? I don't think so.

2) I summon Exiled Force, declare priority and tribute it to destroy my opponent's BLS. My opponent tries to respond with Ring of Destruction targeting my EF. I understand that the effect is activated and he wasted his Ring, because no damage is done, since EF is already in the grave, right? RoD's target is designed at the time of activation, not resolution, right? So he made a mistake and could not target another monster on the field, right?

Thanks in advance

2) You can't target Exiled Force because he is in the graveyard you need to target a card at the activation of Ring of Destruction. You can't activate Ring of Destruction if you don't have a (legal) target. He could chain it to the effect of Exiled Force targeting his own Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning.

 

[skey23]

From "Call of the Haunted":
"When the monster is destroyed, destroy this card."

Remember....Tribute NEVER EQUALS Destroy.


And for #2, Duelmaster is correct, your opponent wouldn't have been able to chain "Ring of Destruction" and target "Exiled Force", they would have to target their "BLS-EotB".

Or, it could be deemed an illegal activation and "Ring" gets put back face down...nifty!

 

[Digital Jedi]

Hi,

Two questions:

1) I've read at metagame.com an article from Curtis Schultz, and he gave the following situation as an example: you use Call of the Haunted to bring Sangan back and then tribute it for Airknight Parshath... Call of the Haunted stays on the field without effect until it's destroyed. Is it right? I don't think so.

It's right. Look closely at Call of the Haunted's text.
It says: "When the monster is destroyed, destroy this card." Tributing a monster does not destroy it so it will not trigger this portion of Call's effect.

In addition, since Call of the Haunted gives no stipulations on what to do in the event the monster is removed from the field in some manner other than destruction, then it just sits there meaninglessly.

You'll also notice that its not an Equip Card. Its a Continuous Trap, so the Game Mechainc that would destroy an equip when a monster is removed from the field isn't there.

2) I summon Exiled Force, declare priority and tribute it to destroy my opponent's BLS. My opponent tries to respond with Ring of Destruction targeting my EF. I understand that the effect is activated and he wasted his Ring, because no damage is done, since EF is already in the grave, right? RoD's target is designed at the time of activation, not resolution, right? So he made a mistake and could not target another monster on the field, right?

The only problem in this case is that it doesn't matter when Ring determines its target. Tributing Exiled Force is a cost for activation of Exiles effect, so even in a chain there would be no monster there for Ring to target.

He could chain it to Exiled's effect, but he would have to target another monster on the field. Exiled Force would not be legal target in this example because Exiled Force is not on the field when Ring targets (activation or resolution).