Deck Devastation Virus v.s. My Body as a Shield

Tkwiget

Da Twiggy Man!
Bringing back a new discussion because I've been thinking about it a lot more with Deck Devastation Virus semi-restricted.

Player A has a face up defense Giant Orc and a Set Deck Devastation Virus. Player B has a face up Don Zaloog and two Sheep Token. Player B also has Apprentice Magician and Tsukuyomi in hand. Player B has a Set My Body as a Shield.

It's at the beginning of Player B's turn and he draws and then enters Standby Phase. Player A activates his Deck Devastation Virus and tributes his Giant Orc to the Graveyard for the cost. Player B chains My Body as a Shield.

In the previous discussion about this situation, we aGreed that Deck Devastation Virus would be negated because we knew that My Body as a Shield would destroy something. However, Deck Devastation Virus and the way the card is worded doesn't destroy anything until resolution of the card.

My Body as a Shield can't chain to cards that may or may not destroy a monster. This would imply that My Body as a Shield couldn't chain to Deck Devastation Virus.

Anyone else seeing this? I want to make sure that we weren't skewing the game mechanics before with the lack of understanding them compared to how we understand them now. The discussion was quite a while ago too.

I just want to make sure we have a definite understanding between these two cards. Some of us judges have regionals this weekend and I for one feel that these two cards will be used and this situation will come up at least once or twice at the regional I'm judging at.
 
Tkwiget said:
Alright, good. Everyone's still on the same page like in the old DDV v.s. My body discussion thread. Excellent!

Plus it's a great reminder for you guys because both of these cards should be increasing in play.

Personally I do not see why these cards are being played. People run 3 Cyber Dragons. How is that going to effect them from Deck Devastation Virus? Not to mention what DARK monster 2000 are people going to Main Deck in order to use it? You would think My Body as a Shield would be played, but I do not see it happening. 1500 Life Points is a lot for most people and really no reason to bother when there are better ways to protect against something like that.
 
DaGuyWitBluGlasses said:
And once again i'll bring up the subject of:

Raigeki Break, Dark World Lightning and Granmarg the Rock Monarch
card text said:
When your opponent activates a card that has the effect that destroys 1 or more monsters on the field, pay 1500 Life Points to negate the activation of the card and destroy it.

only on cards that go after creatures.

Raigeki Break = card [If it was for creatures yes]
Dark World Lightning = Face down Card [ If this was creatures then yes]
Grandmarg the Rock Monarch = Face down card [ If this was creature then yes]
 
DaGuyWitBluGlasses said:
And once again i'll bring up the subject of:

Raigeki Break, Dark World Lightning and Granmarg the Rock Monarch
The only difference between DDV and those cards is those cards are targetting effects that target a card upon activation. The indentity of what will be destroyed is public knowledge and no checking is needed.

DDV doesn't target anything upon activation. It destroys cards during resolution and after it checks the opponent's hand, field, and any additional draws during the rest of their current turn and additional next two turns.

Also Tiso, two little pieces of information about that part where I said, "Plus it's a great reminder for you guys because both of these cards should be increasing in play." is that it's my opinion first of all. Secondly, this isn't a discussion about the amount of play these two cards are going to get. It's about how these two cards function together in certain situations. So let's please stay on topic as much as possible. =)

I'm leaning more to believe the reason why you could chain My Body as a Shield to Deck Devastation Virus in my first example reminds me of how Dedication through Light and Darkness will be negated by Necrovalley if you're attempting to Special Summon a Dark Magician of Chaos from your Graveyard.

However, that wasn't our original conclusion in the old DDV v.s. My Body discussion thread. =P
 
I mostly wanted an update on where everyone still stands on the situation. I've been wondering about it for the past month. Just was far too lazy to post it up and get the results.
 
Ooo, if that is what it was about then yes only while face up and NO if the info is not known.

preaty easy to remember. Untill we get word from Konami / UDE about the card we can only go by and handle the situation in this manner. :)
 
I for one, still stand besides krazykidpsx, if there is a "face-up" destructible monster, then MBaaS can be activated, otherwise it can't.
 
Another reason was because as time progresses, new mechanics and knowledge is discovered. With that new knowledge can bring a different opinion on a situation.
 
Tkwiget said:
Another reason was because as time progresses, new mechanics and knowledge is discovered. With that new knowledge can bring a different opinion on a situation.

You mean snuck into the game instead of the knowledge just being discovered right?
 
There have been enough game mechanics in this game that have existed in the game that required a more in depth knowledge of mechanics in order to see them. It's happened a lot more than new mechanics being added to the game.
 
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