I am so sick and friggin tired of seeing friggin Mobius The Frost friggin Monarch in every friggin deck posted here (friggin). Oh "woop di doo. I just destroyed 2 of your cards har har, har har, har de har har" Why is everyone clinging to this one time only effect? Is this suppose to be another staple card in every deck so it can be banned like Pot of Greed? GGGGRRRR....AAAARRRRRGGGGG!!!!.........................................(breathes in slowly)............(breathes out slowly) aah, there I vented I feel better.
Enough Already!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Thread starter D.M.E.N.
- Start date
- Status
Duelist 316
The Game
Mobius, if played correctly, is either a +1 or an even trade in your favor.
Remember, this format is 95% about card advantage/management. Which is why it is a bad format.
Remember, this format is 95% about card advantage/management. Which is why it is a bad format.
Occasus_Tenshi
Dream of Nightmares
D.M.E.N. said:
Yeah... that makes 2 of us. Ok, card advantage... ok fine... ADD SOME BLOODY Dust TornadoS. Geesh. Never liked the card (or any monarch as far as I go)
Complex_Mind
Deck Mechanic
Woo.
The reason Mobius the Frost Monarch is ran in almost any deck is:
It's a 6 starred 1 tribute monster. When it is tribute summoned successfully, you can destroy up to 2 spell or trap cards on the field.
Mobius the Frost Monarch is very well close to staple in this current format. And who said no one is using Dust Tornado's? From what I see Dust Tornado is at 3 or 2 and Mobius is at 2 or 1.
This game -IS- Yu-Gi-Oh! You should know by now, you're going to see some cards in every deck you see, that's how the game was and that's how it will always be.
The reason Mobius the Frost Monarch is ran in almost any deck is:
It's a 6 starred 1 tribute monster. When it is tribute summoned successfully, you can destroy up to 2 spell or trap cards on the field.
Mobius the Frost Monarch is very well close to staple in this current format. And who said no one is using Dust Tornado's? From what I see Dust Tornado is at 3 or 2 and Mobius is at 2 or 1.
This game -IS- Yu-Gi-Oh! You should know by now, you're going to see some cards in every deck you see, that's how the game was and that's how it will always be.
nkarunatilaka
The Syndicate...
Yup. Thats pretty much about sums it up.Complex_Mind said:
TsunamiArmy
New Member
I tend to only run water decks, and thats the only reason i use mobius...plus i have a nice collection of them..25 at last count (12 ult, 10 super, 3 common)
shadowdragon
leet is for losers
well the same can be said for breaker, Heavy Storm, mst, Sangan, and many other cards, just accept it and give it rest, its the same with Jinzo and decree, most people would agrue both ways, but a 2400 attacker that can stop traps is hardly scoffable at
krazykidpsx
New Member
its called missing the timing and using cards like Blast with Chain.
mobious isnt that big of a deal. well to me it isnt cause the deck is boring. Really if it wasnt for Metagame you wouldnt be see it too often. Its usually Metagame that sets up the meta and the readers that do what they are told like good obidient cookie cutters.
For magic i was running my current deck before it won Worlds. Not to mention my build is different from the world champs build. so you know..
I told my friend yesterday. "bro, anydeck is broken, its the player that brakes it not the cards them selves"
easily, his deck I made him feel cruddy about it. I helped my sister out and flooded the board in 2 turns. he couldnt win.
I won last nights 3 man game. Officially becuase he did an illegal move.
mobious isnt that big of a deal. well to me it isnt cause the deck is boring. Really if it wasnt for Metagame you wouldnt be see it too often. Its usually Metagame that sets up the meta and the readers that do what they are told like good obidient cookie cutters.
For magic i was running my current deck before it won Worlds. Not to mention my build is different from the world champs build. so you know..
I told my friend yesterday. "bro, anydeck is broken, its the player that brakes it not the cards them selves"
easily, his deck I made him feel cruddy about it. I helped my sister out and flooded the board in 2 turns. he couldnt win.
I won last nights 3 man game. Officially becuase he did an illegal move.
Ever since I revamped my deck and ignored deck size as much as possible, I haven't had that much of a problem dealing with Mobius the Frost Monarch. I pack Trap Hole, Bottomless Trap Hole, Jar of Greed, Dust Tornado, etc.. The only trap I can't directly activate to Mobius most of the time is Torrential Tribute. To me he gives you excellent field advantage and promotes hand advantage by destroying their resources on the field. He's used for those reasons and because he's very easy to get out with the strong amounts of field presense in decks.
Sure Dust Tornado can kill stuff in the Damage Step, but that level of chainablity isn't going to save you as all you're doing is getting a 1:1. A Mobius can kill off two of their cards, make them waste more resources, and promotes way more advantage than a lot of the single tribute monsters out there.
He's used because he promotes tons of advantage.
Sure Dust Tornado can kill stuff in the Damage Step, but that level of chainablity isn't going to save you as all you're doing is getting a 1:1. A Mobius can kill off two of their cards, make them waste more resources, and promotes way more advantage than a lot of the single tribute monsters out there.
He's used because he promotes tons of advantage.
D.M.E.N. said:
You complain of Mobius the Frost Monarch but if you have had enough of reptitive ness shouldn't you also say you are tired of seeing Cyber Dragon, Breaker, Sangan, Spirit Reaper, Mystic Swordsman LV2, ect. in a deck as well. Hating a card just to be hating makes no sense. I mean we all know there is not originality in the mainstream decks and that is because it would lose. That's why you see it all around, and it's a good card, just knocking it because you don't like it dosen't really make much of a difference.
Heh. Well, looks to me like D.M.E.N.'s post was more of a vent then anything else. We all have our own personal banes in our respective meta's. I for one am tired of seeing Royal Decree. I don't see the point unless your playing someone like me who packs a jam load of traps (i.e. Jank) in his deck. But I digress. I'll restructure my deck to counter Royal Decree and move on. Mobius kind of annyos me too. But that's why I'm workig a Mask of Restrict into my deck and hopefully something to help get Lava Golem out anyway. All in all though, there are going to be times when it will just get frusrtating and we feel the need to vent.
Mobius = +2 advantage. +2 advantage = pwnage. By the Transitive propety, Mobius = pwnage.
Summon Gilasaurus. -1
Tribute to summon Mobius. -1
Destroy 2 opponent's M/T cards. +2
Attack and kill their Cyber Dragon. +1
They Smashing Ground it next turn. +1
It's a +2 advantage. It pwns, however CC it may be.
Summon Gilasaurus. -1
Tribute to summon Mobius. -1
Destroy 2 opponent's M/T cards. +2
Attack and kill their Cyber Dragon. +1
They Smashing Ground it next turn. +1
It's a +2 advantage. It pwns, however CC it may be.
krazykidpsx
New Member
you know how funny that is? when it got released nobody thought about it that way. They just figured it was wack.
I waited for it to come out got copies and just used it how I wanted now its all CC because people cant make up decks on their own. Maybe.. Just maybe if people were to become more original..
Who knows.. maybe the game would actually fun again.
I waited for it to come out got copies and just used it how I wanted now its all CC because people cant make up decks on their own. Maybe.. Just maybe if people were to become more original..
Who knows.. maybe the game would actually fun again.
Dillie-O
Council of Heroes
hehe, I remember seeing these vents over other friendly cards...
Yata-Garasu
Jinzo
Black Luster Soldier, Envoy of the Beginning
Welcome to the new Meta. 8^D But I agree it does get mind numbing and frustrating at times when you see the same thing, so I feel for ya on that one.
Yata-Garasu
Jinzo
Black Luster Soldier, Envoy of the Beginning
Welcome to the new Meta. 8^D But I agree it does get mind numbing and frustrating at times when you see the same thing, so I feel for ya on that one.
I'm seriously concerned by al the #:# comments that haveben getting made lately. It seems to me that everyone is gauging a card usefulnes based on how many cards it gains/removes. This by no means an acurate may of guaging a cards greatness. There are many many cards that give you a 2:1 and they are strategically some of the most advantageous cards in the game, and trump Mobius in so many ways. I think people are mistaking ease of use with quality of use.
Akabane said:
Yes, I am tired of seeing Cyber Dragon, Breaker, and Mystic Swordsman....Alas, I use Sangan and Spirit Reaper myself.
I know, I'm a hypocrite.
You needn't reprimand me, DJ. You ought to know by now I hate CC and can easily see the killer combos and tech that many duelists cannot. Heck, one of my favorite cards is Enemy Controller, and that's either a 0:1 or 1:2, so you lose out both ways.Digital Jedi said:
Its just that explaining killer combos can be difficult, and giving a #:# analysis is usually the fastest way to explain a card short of typing up a full review (which I'm NOT going to do). Besides, Mobius' greatest trait is card advantage. So when arguing the point of Mobius, what tactic am I going to use? Card advantage.
I hate Mobius as much as you do. But I LOVE arguments. And so, when I saw a near-unanimous vote against Mobius, I decided to argue the opposing view.
krazykidpsx
New Member
i never said it was a bad card.. I just dislike to get shut down on a card 2 years ago.
I remember the comments i got. "Mobious?? what the, that card is wack use BLS and shut up"
is that something thouse same players would say now aday?
I remember the comments i got. "Mobious?? what the, that card is wack use BLS and shut up"
is that something thouse same players would say now aday?
People move from trendy deck ideas to the next trendy deck idea. It's the nature of competitive players in any TCG. People don't go to a tournament after they've worked hard to make a highly successful deck to simply lose. People want to win and have fun. People consider winning is having fun. The more they win the more fun they have. Going to a tournament using a deck that won't even win might seem like fun to you, but there's going to be a lot more players looking at you with an arched brow wondering why you even wasted yours and their time by entering.
Decks that win are fun to use. I don't really see the notion of running a completely original deck and losing second and third round. Unless the deck has potential you shouldn't be wasting your money entering a tournament if you don't feel it's worth using in that tournament.
Naturally there's exceptions to what I've said. If you have an exception then all the more power to you. Whining about a card like Mobius isn't going to change the meta. It isn't going to change how people will build their decks and what cards they select to use.
People go to tournaments to win. They don't go to lose with their "fun" deck. Winning merits having a fun time. Everyone wants to win because it makes you feel like you're successful. Thinking otherwise is just flawed logic to me. =/
Decks that win are fun to use. I don't really see the notion of running a completely original deck and losing second and third round. Unless the deck has potential you shouldn't be wasting your money entering a tournament if you don't feel it's worth using in that tournament.
Naturally there's exceptions to what I've said. If you have an exception then all the more power to you. Whining about a card like Mobius isn't going to change the meta. It isn't going to change how people will build their decks and what cards they select to use.
People go to tournaments to win. They don't go to lose with their "fun" deck. Winning merits having a fun time. Everyone wants to win because it makes you feel like you're successful. Thinking otherwise is just flawed logic to me. =/
- Status