Gearfried (both) questions/issues

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skey23

Council of Heroes
Ok, we've been getting a lot of questions about "Blast with Chain" and "Gearfried the Iron Knight". We've had several discussions about how everything works. But something just popped into my head that has me wondering. Since I didn't want to muddy up anybody else's specific posts, I decided to voice my 'wonders' here.

Do we consider the effects of "Gearfried the Iron Knight" and "Gearfried the Swordmaster" to be pretty much identical effects, except for what they destroy?

Let's look at their text, shall we...

"Gearfried the Iron Knight" - "When an Equip Card is equipped to this card, destroy the Equip Card."

"Gearfried the Swordmaster" - "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by the effect of "Release Restraint". When this card is equipped with an Equip Card, destroy 1 monster on your opponent's side of the field."

Ok, so when either is equipped with an Equip Card, their effects activate and attempt to destroy something.

If we consider them pretty much the same, then let's look at this ruling for "Gearfried the Swordmaster".
The effect of "Gearfried the Swordmaster" is a Trigger Effect that can be chained to, starting a new chain after the current chain resolves. You can chain "Divine Wrath" to the activation of this effect.
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It doesn't say it can interrupt a chain resolution. It says it WILL start a new chain AFTER the current chain resolves.

So WHERE did we get the idea that "Gearfried the Iron Knight" can interrupt a chain resolution? I searched the Judge's List for all references to "Gearfried" and didn't find anything related to this. Is this another BKSS?

Let's look at "Divine Wrath" .vs both of these monsters. Based on the ruling I quoted, you can chain "Divine Wrath" and destroy "Gearfried the Swordmaster", even if he is equipped mid-chain because his effect waits for the chain resolution.
If we go by what's being said (myself included) about "Gearfried the Iron Knight", then you would NOT be able to use "Divine Wrath" against his effect if activated mid-chain since his effect would activate and resolve between the steps of the chain, and "Divine Wrath" wouldn't be able to interrupt that chain resolution.

What does everybody else have to say about this?
 
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Thanks Raj... i searched but couldn't find the link for Gearfried.

I'm fine with it, and it honestly is a change in the function of the effect, probably to put it more in accordance with the Swordmaster.

That would also mean that you should be able to equip him while Skill Drain is active, and the Equip will remain attached when Skill Drain is removed. Seeing as how the timing would have been missed by then.

I remember the JERP stating that it was Continuous a long time ago, or at least the last time i checked (which was a loooong time ago).

Also, is there a quick search function in the JERP somwhere, maybe where i could pop in the cardcode and get the desired card...or do i have to specifically go by set. It would be nice because the cards don't match up with the sets in NA for the older sets and it can be a pain to find them.

Maybe you should suggest it to puppiy?
 
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For a full list of (effect) cards before the 4th series, they are divided into Effect Monster, Magic, and Trap.
■ 効果モンスターカード一覧 （３期まで） ■ 魔法カード一覧 （３期まで） ■ 罠カード一覧 （３期まで）

You can go to one of those pages and search for the set number, such as JY-01. You can also look for the name, in Japanese, or try using Babelfish and your CTRL+F and hope to find a translation that UDE and Babelfish both used.

You can use Edo's to find the set number, or figure it out (which is some difficult).

The JERP page for GF was last updated in June.

I don't exactly have a relationship with puppiy. He still hasn't answered my PM :/
 
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