I Hate Prohibition

chaosruler

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Alright...I remember there used to be rulings for Prohibiton, but I need some clarifications:

1) Say it was played by Player A, naming Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier. Can Player B set Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier? My thoughts here are that you can't, but I'm not sure.

2) How does recurring said monster with Premature Burial/Call of the Haunted, or in this case, Rite of Spirit, work? I remember the old ruling said Gravekeeper's Spear Soldier can be recurred because you aren't playing the Spear Soldier, you are playing Premature Burial, etc. But is the monster a Normal monster like I remember it being?

Someone help, please.

-John
 
1) No, absolutely not. Normally I'd say 'Yes, it can because the card cannot be recognized.' But Prohibition is an extremely special case. It does prevent a card from being played, no matter what.
2) *Sigh* If Prohibition says it can't be played, it can't be played. Alright, cards like Rite of Spirit are the ones who are the first on the field, but they trigger the playing of cards like GSS.

Example for this: rulings like the first two of Prohibition.
  1. [Re: D.D. Scout Plane] If "Prohibition" was used and "D.D. Scout Plane" is prohibited, "D.D. Scout Plane" cannot be Special Summoned and remains removed from play.
  2. [Re: King of the Swamp] If "King of the Swamp" is selected for the effect of "Prohibition", you cannot use either of its effects.
Hope this helped.
 
I remember an old ruling, that was also one of the questions when I did the test for judge saying that for example, if you prohibite Jinzo and your opponent summons it with cards like Call of the Haunted it would be special summoned, but its effect would be negated...
 
oh god, my memory is being strained.....

..I really want to say that I recall the rulings stating that a monster that had been Prohibited and somehow brought to the field by the effect of another card would be a "vacant"

This means that it would contain no effect, no recognized Attribute, subtype, ATK, DEF, nada.

The Prohibited monster would take up a monster zone, and be treated as 0/0. So it could be attacked and destroyed.

Im working off a dusty memory though, so I could easily be wrong. However, if the above holds true, I would say that the 'blank' would be ineligible for tribute costs or other effects that count monsters on the field.

Alright, now give me a second... Im going to throw this up in the air, then you can start firing monkeys at it.

HEY! I said wait TILL I throw it. Im still in the way.....sheesh!

edit: post 500 and I'm a Gaming Champion? Me? If that ain't an oxymoron, I don't know what is.
 
From the Netrepâ„¢ 6.0b files:
A card declared by "Prohibition" may not be Normal Set, Normal Summoned, or activated.

A card declared by "Prohibition" may be Special Summoned, but will have no effect and may not attack.

Monster cards chosen by the effect of "Prohibition" may not be Set.

"Exodia the Forbidden One" vs. "Prohibition" - "Prohibition" will not prevent an instant win through the effect of "Exodia the
Forbidden One".

"Imperial Order" vs. "Prohibition" - If "Prohibition" is negated by "Imperial Order", the card declared by "Prohibition" may be
activated until "Imperial Order" is negated or leaves the field.

"Jinzo" vs. "Prohibition" - If a "Prohibition" that declares "Jinzo" is negated by "Imperial Order", "Jinzo" may be Summoned.
Hope this helps!
 
kind of. I forgot about the not attacking.

But would the monster still retain its attribute, ATK, and subtype?

Im thinking specifically of card effects like Goblin King, the Spiritual Arts trap cards, and things like that.
 
Unfortunatley for UDE, our Archive Files are still intact ;) Check this out:
http://www.cogonline.net/threads.5194

1. Let's say my opponent already has the card set face down that was
prohibited...can he activate the card?

2. Also if my opponent plays Monster Reborn on the prohibited card that
is not considered "Playing it" right?





Answer:

1. Yes they can. Prohibited cards that were Set on the field before "Prohibition" resolved can still be activated.


2. Right, but if the monster card is an effect monster card it will have no effect AND the monster would not be able to attack.

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Curtis Schultz
Official UDE Netrepâ„¢
CurtisSchultz_netrep@hotmail.com



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I would say yes, since paying for Lava Golem is a cost. I remmeber running into something like this Shonen Jump Vegas. The player had Prohibited their Breaker, but they were still able to use it as a cost for Tribe's cost.
 
I think Konami will have to clarify the word "play" once and for all, as I suspect they are doing. I personally feel that "playing" a card and bringing a card "into play" are two different things. While, technically, playing a card does, indeed, bring it into play, bringing a card into play does not neccessarily mean it's been played. This would mean there would have be a definitive answer to whether or not a Ritual Spell Card does the Special Summoning or if the Ritual Monster just uses the Spell Card as part of it's summoning requirements.

I personally don't think you can prevent a monster from being Special Summoned via another card if the monster if the monster has been "Prohibited".
 
Heheh, the thing is, cards in the Graveyard are considered to be "in play" as well. XD

That's why you have effects that remove cards from play. Such as Bazoo. So the entire frield is all the zones you see on the play mats. Just players refer to "field" as monster, spell/trap, field, and fusion zones and not Deck and Graveyard zones.

Just thought I'd like to point that out.
 
Well, coming from a Vs perspective, the "in play" area doesn't neccassarily HAVE to include the discard pile in order for effects to be active there. Not all effects have to be in play to be active, hence cards that activate in the removed from play area. But, aside from that, "removed from play" was a poor choice of terms for this area. Most other games I've seen use the term "removed from game". Wich is much more accurate, even for Yu-Gi-Oh!
 
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