limiter removals

[master-of_chaos]

ey,
i'v got a question about how many limiter removels (or other q.play spell cards) you can activate ones you have declared an atack.

master-of_chaos

 

[Dlanaan]

As many as you have room for in your S/T zone.

 

[miiaah]

I have another question about Limiter Removal.

Let's say there is a Jinzo on my side of the field, equipped with Mage Power and no other S/T. I activate Limiter Removal and chain with another Limiter Removal. What is Jinzo new attack ?

 

[Dillie-O]

There was another post around here that will detail this more, but Limiter Removal will double the current attack, after the modifiers are made for other equips.

So in your case, Jinzo would be...

(2400 + 500(Mage) + 500(Limiter1) + 500(Limiter2)) x 2 x 2 = 15,600

Now since Limiter Removal "locks" the ATK of the monster, after the two Limiters leave the field, its attack will still stay at 15,600 instead of dropping down by 1000 ATK.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Jinzo will be at 15600 -- 2x2x(2400+1500)

As Limiter Removal counts towards Mage Power, and will lock in the stats so Jinzo won't lose ATK when Limiter Removal leaves the field.

EDIT: Must type fater next time....

 

[Mazera DeVille]

I gather if you have a machine type monster like Ancient Gear Golem equipped with Heavy Mech Support Platform making the attack 3500; you then use Limiter Removal to pump it up to 7000. At the end of the turn, Heavy Mech Support Platform is destroyed in place of the Ancient Gear Golem because of the effect of Limiter Removal; does that mean the attack reduces to 6500 or does it remain at 7000.

 

[John Danker]

It would remain at 7000 atk

 

[Mazera DeVille]

Would the same thing still apply if you choose to unequip Heavy Mech Support Platform from Ancient Gear Golem.

 

[John Danker]

Mazera DeVille[/ycard]]Would the same thing still apply if you choose to unequip Heavy Mech Support Platform from Ancient Gear Golem.

If you unequipted Ancient Gear Golem by removing Heavy Mech Support Platform then Ancient Gear Golem's atk would still be 7000....but Ancient Gear Golemn would be destroyed at the end of the turn from Limiter Removal's effect.

 

[Mazera DeVille]

Cool, I gather if it was just normally attached to Ancient Gear Golem making it 3500 then unattached it would return back to it's original attack of 3000 with no interference from Limiter Removal.

 

[daivahataka]

Mazera DeVille[/ycard]]Cool, I gather if it was just normally attached to Ancient Gear Golem making it 3500 then unattached it would return back to it's original attack of 3000 with no interference from Limiter Removal.

Yes, the reason the attack stays at the doubled value is that Limiter Removal has no stipulation for the Atk returning to normal, it has nothing to do with the Heavy Mech Support Platform other than for allowing the monster to survive Limiter's destruction effect in the End Phase.

 

[Tkwiget]

And because it never states that the monster will return back to the origianal attack it will remain that way until destroyed, flipped face down, or removed from the field some how.

 

[squid]

I have a question.

If I have 1 Heavy Mech equipped, and multiple Limiters attempt to destroy, would that single Union protect the Machine monster from destruction by all activated Limiters, or just from the first one attempting to destroy?

 

[Digital Jedi]

Nope. Heavy Mech Support Platform will only take the bullet for the lingering effect of the first Limiter that resolves at the End Phase. Then Heavy is destroyed. Then the next Limiter Removal resolves and since Heavy Mech Support Platform is gone then the monster is destroyed.

 

[squid]

In that respect, is the destruction caused by Limiter a chainable effect that can be bypassed with effects like Interdimensional Matter Transporter?

 

[Tkwiget]

Yes you can because once End Phase hits it triggers that part of the effect. Then you can chain to it since it forms a chain and is Link 1 in the chain. Interdimensional Matter Transporter becomes Link 2 in the chain.

Link 1: Limiter Removal
Link 2: Interdimensional Matter Transporter

Reverse resolving.

Link 2: Interdimensional Matter Transporter
Link 1: Limiter Removal.

IMT will resolve first then Limiter Removal. This will save your monster.

If Lava Golem's trigger effect of entering a game phase can be chained too, so can Limiter Removal.

 

[densetsu_x]

You don't even have to view it as a chain. In the end phase simply activate IMT. That's all. Remember you decide when to resolve effects like that.

 

[Tkwiget]

Andrew, sometimes if you give them a chaining explaination it helps better understand how they can legally save their monster. But yeah, I should have said something along the lines of what you did.

 

[squid]

right. I just was using the question as a way of understanding for certain whether the destruction was chainable at all.

I appreciate both explanations

 

[Tkwiget]

No problem, sometimes having two ways to explain something is a good way to eplain it to someone else. xD