Pandemonium Questions

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Occasus_Tenshi

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I've got 2 questions concerning Pandemonium.

1st one is: When using Altar for Tribute to send 1 archfiend monster to the graveyard, will it activate Pandemoniums effect to search a lower level archfiend? I thought so, but then I noticed that "destroy and send" might not be the same as "send".

2nd question: An archfiend is destroyed and sent to the graveyard, and Pandemoniums effect takes place. Axe of Despair is treated as an archfiend, but can it be searchable by Pandemoniums effect? If so, is it treated as an lvl0 or lvl1 archfiend?

Thx beforehand
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Jason_C said:
Ante.

What?
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I believe the card text for Ante states that all "Non-Monster" cards are treated as Level 0.

I'm pretty sure I made my statement solely based on "Monsters" never going below Level 1.

Since Axe of Despair is never treated as a "monster", it is not searchable for effects that allow you to search for a Archfiend Monster, and if it were selected as a card for "Ante", it would still not be treated as a monster, and would be a Level 0 Spell Card, since all Spells and Traps will be treated the same, regardless of type.
 
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Fair enough... I guess it's good enough even just for Falling Down...

Allthough... It would be nice to remake it into something like "Archfiend Axe of Despair" adding some efect besides the 1000 atk boost, like: "This card can be treated as an LV1 archfiend monster when Pandemonium resolves blah blah." Like the did with ol' Summoned Skull remaking him into Skull Archfiend of Lightning!

*sigh* there I go again dreaming...
 
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Occasus_Tenshi said:
Fair enough... I guess it's good enough even just for Falling Down...

Allthough... It would be nice to remake it into something like "Archfiend Axe of Despair" adding some efect besides the 1000 atk boost, like: "This card can be treated as an LV1 archfiend monster when Pandemonium resolves blah blah." Like the did with ol' Summoned Skull remaking him into Skull Archfiend of Lightning!

*sigh* there I go again dreaming...
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Well, Summoned Skull and Skull Archfiend of Lightning are two separate monsters, yet BOTH are Archfiends.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
I believe the card text for Ante states that all "Non-Monster" cards are treated as Level 0.

I'm pretty sure I made my statement solely based on "Monsters" never going below Level 1.

Since Axe of Despair is never treated as a "monster", it is not searchable for effects that allow you to search for a Archfiend Monster, and if it were selected as a card for "Ante", it would still not be treated as a monster, and would be a Level 0 Spell Card, since all Spells and Traps will be treated the same, regardless of type.
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I figured I might strike a nerve, sir :D

I didn't mean to contradict you. I was merely pointing out that there is such a thing as LV0, even if not in monster form. You know, adding to the discussion.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
Well, Summoned Skull and Skull Archfiend of Lightning are two separate monsters, yet BOTH are Archfiends.
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But I didn't say otherwise, you missed my point. Lets face it, the cards ARE different, but the big bad dude they both represent is the same. Both lvl6, both fiend, both archfiend, both atk 2500 and def 1200, both dark... even the art is a variation of the same figure. Only difference is the the "new" Summoned Skull is effect and the old is norm. Same dude in 2 different cards. See? I was talking of a new equip card, a variation of Axe of Despair with aditionall efect like Skully ^_^
 
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