Taking the LV2 YGO...

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Wish me luck guys. Taking my YGO rules LV2 today. I took the VS LV1 and Player Management LV1 online the other night too.

I hope I did good on all 3, then I will have 3 LV1 and a LV2!

Friggin Awesome!

Well, anyways, wish me luck....
 
Unfortunately, I lied, or not really lied, but misinterpreted communications. Glenn Chang had told me that Jon Lacey would give me and a few other judges the LV 2 test today, but Jon Lacey wants to get to know and make sure that judges he would certify LV 2 are worth being a certified LV 2 judge, not someone undeserving of the title. He ended up not giving any LV 2 tests today, but told me in the future it seemed that I would probably be able to take it when they are able to offer it.


This was the first regionals that I have judged, and only 2 sneak previews, but Jon wasn't there at the Sneak Peaks. Next area regionals I hope he might let me.

Thanks for wishing me luck though guys!
 
A couple of weeks ago I did the LV2 test at the Spellenspektakel in Eindhoven, The Netherlands, today I got the results.

I passed :D

I scored 98%!! That's far more than I expected.

Did anybody of the other people who also made the test there got the results?
 
Jon Lacey and I have always required that a judge do so WITH us at a tournment before we test them. This is a pretty common practice among those authorized to give the test. The only time I know when you can just walk right up and take the test without working as a judge with the person who will be testing you is at conventions where UDE employees are present and giving the test.
 
I did judge the regionals with him. And I do understand the practice, it is actually a good idea. Although I don't know exactly what he thought of how I did, Glenn recommended me to take it and Jon said when they offer it at an event in the future, which is ok with me. Sure, I was dissapointed, and I told him so, but at least he just didn't say I didn't seem qualified to take it.
 
John Danker said:
Jon Lacey and I have always required that a judge do so WITH us at a tournment before we test them. This is a pretty common practice among those authorized to give the test. The only time I know when you can just walk right up and take the test without working as a judge with the person who will be testing you is at conventions where UDE employees are present and giving the test.
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Man... That's kind of harsh... I know when I took my Level 2 Test, I had to drive over 7 Hours to get to the event I tested at, and that would have been a MAJOR disappointment to have that "stipulation" be pointed out after the fact. As someone in the Military, just being able to have opportunities to take part in Tournaments that aren't "around the corner" are very rare, and as much as I would love to take part in every Shonen Jump or Regional that's out there, it's not possible. There's got to be an easier method to decide who is worthy of testing.

In my line of work, we have a certification called "Expert Field Medical Badge", EFMB for short. On average, anywhere from 200-300 people may test for it when it's offered. Maybe 10 people will pass. Usually it's because the standard is not being upheld by the ones administering the Hand's On portion. We call them "Badge Protector's" which is a term used for people who do not feel that the people testing are "worthy" by "their" standards.

There's a whole lot wrong with people who dont take their VOLUNTARY job as a Judge seriously enough to make the effort to take part in being a Staff Member at a Major, or even a Local Tourney.

But, if there is no other standard to qualify an individual, such as a point system (judge so many tourney's, qualify for testing next level), or a time qualification (serve so long as a Level X Judge), then it's really unfair to hold someone back based upon how you view them.

Anyone can have a good or bad day Judging. Anyone Good at Judging can have a Bad day testing.

If you have a Bad day testing, there really isnt any remedy, no matter how great a Judge you are, that anyone can offer other than, "Come back and test next time".

Sure, a good Judge can have a lot of knowledge, but just cant take a test. I was an Instructor for 4 years. I had several GREAT students that had NO PROBLEM with Hand's On. They just panicked when it came to Written Test.

What's the Moral?? While one day does not make the man, one day is only one of many. Im sure if he has the desire to be good, give him the chance to show that he can be. This isnt life or death. Yes, Quality before Quantity, but without a standard, what is the Barometer of a good Judge, or a "Ready Judge"?
 
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Jon Lacey and I have always required that a judge do so WITH us at a tournment before we test them. This is a pretty common practice among those authorized to give the test. The only time I know when you can just walk right up and take the test without working as a judge with the person who will be testing you is at conventions where UDE employees are present and giving the test.
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There are other situations as well. If you have previously judged for a person and at a later event at which you wish to participate you may be able to take the test from that person.

Also, John Williams gives out the level 2 test if he has the time to people who are not judging. (thank you John, your time investment has not gone to waste :D)
 
There is discussion on the L3 board about this very thing in the last week or so. It's really up to the people giving the test at this time.

Jon and I don't have any problem giving the test to someone we've worked with before, it doesn't have to be at that very event. What we're trying to avoid is having someone be "test ready" but not field ready. We're not doing either the players or the judge any favors by letting them pass the L2 test only to be put in a head judge position that they aren't field ready to handle. Having seen them work under pressure, how they handle an irrate parent, a cussing player, a situation where they are uncertain, if they're responsable, if they use their time well, if they're well orgainzed, etc.....this is what we're trying to determine before the test is actually given.
 
And that is perfectly acceptable in my opinion. Believe me, I know how easily a house packed with 300-400 people can turn from a easygoing atmosphere, to a mad house!

And yes, field testing is Appropriate. I have seen some rather sad Staff Members out there, and that's being rather "kind". I just wanted to make sure that the "Total Judge" is taken into account, rather than "I don't know who you are, so I cant test you" type thing.

Some people, such as myself, may be able to Judge Large Events, but not be able to test for higher levels as our TO is unable to secure a UDE Rep to do testing, so that means the opportunities may not come from our "Zone of Concern", and we would have to go elsewhere to another area that is fully covered for Judges, or have their own staff members they use on a regular basis. So, there may not be a real opportunity to be a Head Judge.
 
And if I'm not mistaken, John is going to be testing me on December 10th. >=) Not trying to sound arrogant or anything, but I'm gonna "pwn" that test hard....reeeaal hard. I've only worked with John twice, but the amount of experience you gain just from a couple Sneak Preview events alone is a lot.

Here's a small list of the stuff I learned.

-Remembering to know the Policy documents and not be a moron and say, "Aaaaa..." while looking around for a judge that does know them.
-Being a college student and working at a gas station in the kitchen has given me the prone ability to eat a lot of pizza. Which we ate at both Previews..
-Keeping a collective mind (another words, staying calm).
-Appearing friendly and approachable.
-Resolving card rulings quickly and accurately.
-Knowing that I'm working with fine individuals with great chrisma and excellent professionalism.
-Learning new mechanics that pop up that I didn't know before.

Those are the basic core things that I learned while field judging. It's amazing and I've only began. >=)

But hey, good luck on your test when you take it!!
 
No that you are (or aren't) eliciting feedback on the issue John, but the "field ready" prospect of things I think is quite valuable. I'm kind of in a unique position, that there aren't a lot of judges out my way and I've had a chance to judge on numerous occasions with the same TO, and a different one at the sneak peeks.

I've only met Gary (who gave us the test) once before the test, and that was at the Shonen Jump in past Feb. Apparently he thought enough of me then, or talked to the TO enough, to feel I was ready for the L2 in that regard.

...and I'm honestly glad I waited. I thought I was going to have a chance about 3 or 4 months ago to take the L2, but I hadn't done much judging up unto that point and I've learned a lot of things about player management since then that need to be taken into an account as a head judge. Our last sneak preview brought up a few issues where improper judging can lead to some issues, so it is important to make sure people are up to the task.
 
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Were is it that you're located that there isn't a testing person or venue within half a day's drive?
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Its not so much that, but I have to really plan to attend those far away events and like I said, being in the Military, my weekends aren't always "free" to just attend events that I cant maximize my time at. If I'm going to be Judging in a Major Event that's more than 6 hours away, I'd at least like to know that I have a chance at advancement. If not, knowing there wont be testing at least gives me the chance to go as a Player.

I have a Regional that I am going to be Judging at December 18th with Ancient Duelist at College Park, MD, and then if things go well, a Shonen Jump in April. I already talked to my TO about testing for December, and she nixed that.
 
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