What's A Replay?

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anthonyj

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I just wanted to throw something out there because I'm not a big fan of how UDE often uses the wrong words to give us rulings. So on June 9th Kevin posted to the Judge's List
Kevin Tewart said:
A replay is triggered when an attack has been declared, and then during the attack a potential attack target appears or Disappears.
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So here is my question. If my opponent attacks my Marauding Captain equipped with United We Stand with his Goblin Attack Force and I activate Call of the Haunted to bring The Legendary Fisherman to the field while Umi is active on the field will that trigger a replay?
 
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From what Kevin said, no. The attack would go through.

EDIT: The above answer was to answer the question from a first glance or quick glance at what Kevin said. Reading it more carefully will unlock any meaning behind it.

However, a replay is when the difference of monsters have changed on the defending field. So your field went from 1 monster to 2 monsters. A replay is issued.

Don't know why Kevin said what a replay is the way he said it. Keep in mind that sometimes it's hard to explain what you actually mean in words and as simple as you can.

However he basically said what I said in a more tricky way.

When he mentions "potential attack target appears or Disappears" that means a change in the number of monsters on the defending field. But like I said, it can be hard to word things correctly when you know your right.
 
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Sure. the number of monsters on the defending side of the field has changed. The Fisherman may not be a legal target of attack by GAF, but it is still a monster.
 
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<soft chuckle> According to the exact wording that's been presented no, a reply wouldn't occur. Since The Legendary Fisherman is not a legal target for the attack of Goblin Attack Force no new target appears during the attack.

It would be a good question to post though and see if it changes the way that they wish to word the definition of replay....which I'm sure was your entire point.

*Edit* I believe what he was trying to get at was that if a new attack target appears....and if I remember right the question at that time had to do with the player becoming a potential attack target (attacking directly even through there is a monster on your side of the field)
 
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Yes but read Kevin's defination again. It makes since if you read it a couple times slowly.

"Potential" Is the word that means future or later for this Replay defination. If the player that's attacking has more than one monster. However a Replay is always issued even if something like The Legendary Fisherman is summoned. Reguardless, the number of monsters on the defending side has changed and a replay should be issued anyway. That's just my opinion. =/ But I do get what John is saying on this.

>_< What I hate is how unclear so much of this game is. UDE works hard to make any and all confusion brought to their attention to get cleared up. But the people that do overlook these questions and situations probably are VERY busy. Which is a good reason why a lot of this stuff doesn't change that often. Once again, that's just another one of my opinions.
 
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Can The Legendary Fisherman be attacked before Call of the Haunted finishes resolving? Just because a monster "hits the field" doesn't mean it's a potential attack target, it's summon must resolve to be considered on the field as evidenced by rulings with Horn of Heaven and SJ and a flip summoned Sangan.

I realize the word "appears" leaves room for doubt, however, The Legendary Fisherman (or any other monster) is not a potential attack target until it's summon or special summon is successful.
 
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And yet so many judges of level 1, 2, and a couple 3s have told me that a replay is will occur when a change of the amount of monsters on the defending field has changed. That's what my defination of a replay is. Then when you actually decide your attack targets, you run off the card effects involved.

To me that's what the replay is and how Kevin is still correct. =/ Maybe I just see it differently.

EDIT: Errr, just read what John said. =/

The amount of monsters that change must be successfully changed. Such as me using A Rival Appears! in response to your monster attacking and I bring out Berserk Gorilla or Jinzo. A replay will occur once that summoning is complete.

I think I'll shut up and quit adding fuel to the fire of confusion. @_@ I feel like I'm making it much worse.
 
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John Danker said:
I realize the word "appears" leaves room for doubt, however, The Legendary Fisherman (or any other monster) is not a potential attack target until it's summon or special summon is successful.
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But isn't successfully summoned when Call of the Haunted is resolving? Otherwise there would be a chance to negate the summoning, n'est-ce pas?

anthonyj said:
Also Legendary Fisherman's is a Continuous effect that is applied immediately as evidenced by the (finally corrected) rulings on Spell Canceller and Level Limit.
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The Level Limit Area B vs Spell Canceller ruling shows that there is an order in which continuous effects are applied (and that order isn't always whichever hit the field first).
Spell Canceller's effect is still trying to "apply" at the same time as Level Limit's, much like 2 trigger effects try to activate at the same time, but have to go to SEGOC instead since they can't be activated at the exact same time.

If Skill Drain and Imperial Order were removed from the field at the same time, and Spell Canceller and Level Limit Are B remain on the field, the same ruling would apply now.
 
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I've always thought a replay is a Game Mechanic that triggers regardless of the effect of the monsters inplay/brought into play. I don't see it any other way.

Say I attack my opponent directly and he Special Summons The Legendary Fisherman or Guardian Kay'est (with the proper support already on the field), does the attack continue as a direct attack? I don't belive thats would be possible. Don't we already have a ruling on another effect or conbo that states that the opponent sudenly becoming a target during the attack triggers a replay?
 
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Yes we do. Situations like Skill Drain being destroyed while a toon monster is attacking will cause a replay because the opponent's life points just became a valid target. The problem is in the wording that was used. It could have been stated "When the number of monsters on the field increases or decreases on the opponent's side of the field or a direct attack becomes possible then a replay occurs."
 
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