Yay! Ancient LAMP~! SP2-EN001

ZOMG! I can't believe it's this card that's the next preview. Cause this card ROCKS!

First, let's see it's ability.

Ancient Lamp
Wind Spellcaster lv 3
ATK 900 DEF 1400

When this face-down Defense Position card is attacked by your opponent's monster, you can make 1 opponent's monster (except the attacking monster) be attacked instead. While this card is face-up on the field, you can Special Summon 1 "La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp" from your hand.


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First, it's stats is pretty much crap. And we know WIND doesn't have that much support. And it's 2nd effect of summining "La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp is kinda" stupid too. (It's a normal monster. So let's ignore those stuff and focus on where this card shines, the first effect.

Basically, when this card is smacked while set face-down defense, it can redirect the attack to one of your foe's monster instead. This is a killer ability cause.

#1: It negates an attack.
#2: It can destroy 1 monster of your foe, or at least do LP damage.
#3: Screw up the whole battle phase of your foe.

Let's see some examples.

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Your foe have DDA, Donny.

Your foe attacks with DDA, Ancient Lamp makes it attack Donny instead. DDA destroys Donny and your foe lose LP. Not to mention DDA already attacked, and your foe's 2nd monster is destroyed so it also can't attack. It just screwed up the whole swarming process. If your foe had a Cyber Dragon and ATK position Spirit Reaper, you just negated Cyber Dragon's attack, your foe lost LP, and you also stopped Spirit Reaper from forcing you a discard.

If the foe had two of the same ATK points on the field. (Say 2x Hydrogeddon) both are destroyed. Your foe lose 2 monsters while I still have 1 on the field. If it was 2x DDA, both gets removed from play.

Basically, it's one of the best counters of swarming. And oh man, I love to swarm and blitz attack... this card can totally screw that up along with OTK strats as well. (Cyber-Stein to Cyber End Dragon? Ha, make Cyber End Dragon attack Cyber-Stein instead and your foe get's an OTK cause of 5000LP + 3300LP loss.)

Of course, this card also have it's weaknesses.

It's effect is only active when face-down, so once it's face-up and used it's effect, it's a normal monster with crappy stats. Meaning, it's one-time use and then it's destroyed. (So doesn't last long like Reapers) Not to mention since this card's effect is face-down defense, you can't use CotH, Premature to use it's effect again. However, this isn't too bad as Book of Moon and Tsukuyomi can be a good remedy to repeatedly use this card effect. If you want to pick this card from the graveyard and use it again. The Shallow Grave or Pot of Avarice is a good remedy.

This card's effect can only activate when your foe have at least 2 monsters or more. So if your foe's attacing with 1 card, this card just dies. This also means this card is a crappy top decking during the end games where it's just 1 vs 1 monster. However, this card is a great top decker during the mid-games when your losing cause you got no monsters and your foe is swarming and direct attacking like crazy. If your worried about your foe don't having 2 monsters on the field, you can opt for Ojama Trio.

And finally, this card just get's pwned by MSlv2. And well, against that... there's no remedy... (Except for Saku and stuff. but ya know, Saku's for everything.)


Is this card splashable... perhaps. I mean, there's alot of swarm decks these days. (Warrior Toolbox comes to mind. One of the popular top tier metagame decks.) But I won't say it's 100% splashable though. but I think this card can fit in side-decks pretty well.

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In the end, I give it a

9 out of 10.

A great card. And now people will think twice before just swarm attacking all day. (eek for me)
 
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With that logic Red Eyes, Blue Eyes and many other Normal Monsters are not normal due to support cards that give them similar abilities. They are still Normal monsters, just more playable with the support they've been given. Ancient Lamp/La Jinn is quite situational as neither has enough power to hold the field for any extended amount of time, the swarm can be more easily accomplished with many other tactics and there is limited synergy between Fiends and Spellcasters. Perhaps a "retrained" La Jinn with a useful effect or improved stats could be brought in. :)
 
anthonyj said:
Perhaps a "retrained" La Jinn with a useful effect or improved stats could be brought in. :)
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They seem to be quite fond of the phrase,

"This card is treated as...."


So, could this be a precursor to a 1900 attack "Effect" La Jinn??
 
Come on, La Jinn summoning have to be done from your HAND. Yeah, not only it's a 1800ATK normal monster, (Pack a Luster if you have room for normal) you have to have it from your hand. It's like Dragon Flute IMO. Yeah, like your actually gunna have D. Lord, Flute + 2 insanely powerful dragons in your hand. If Ancient Lamp searches your deck for La Jinn I might have considered somewhat of it's values for free tribute for lv 7-8 monsters.

Okay, I'm sorry about the paladin comment. I didn't know that Paladin bust face-down monsters without flipping it face-up like MSlv2. (Bad text IMO) And about MSlv4,6, who actually USES them anyway? I mean, you have to put it face-down before using it unless you use MSlv effect summoning. And we know how rare can MSlv2 can kill a monster without using it's effect.

But yeah, this card came out too late IMO. It should have come out early during the TER days of Goat Control of packing 3 Scapegoat + 3 Book of Moon + 3 Tsukuyomi + 3 TERs.
 
drzero7 said:
Come on, La Jinn summoning have to be done from your HAND. Yeah, not only it's a 1800ATK normal monster, (Pack a Luster if you have room for normal) you have to have it from your hand. It's like Dragon Flute IMO. Yeah, like your actually gunna have D. Lord, Flute + 2 insanely powerful dragons in your hand. If Ancient Lamp searches your deck for La Jinn I might have considered somewhat of it's values for free tribute for lv 7-8 monsters.

Okay, I'm sorry about the paladin comment. I didn't know that Paladin bust face-down monsters without flipping it face-up like MSlv2. (Bad text IMO) And about MSlv4,6, who actually USES them anyway? I mean, you have to put it face-down before using it unless you use MSlv effect summoning. And we know how rare can MSlv2 can kill a monster without using it's effect.

But yeah, this card came out too late IMO. It should have come out early during the TER days of Goat Control of packing 3 Scapegoat + 3 Book of Moon + 3 Tsukuyomi + 3 TERs.
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Dr Z, don't take this the wrong way. I certainly don't mean it in a negative manner. But your views on card effects are decidely one-sided. It seems that if it doesn't have some insane one-for-one advantage or a tremendously powerful ATK value, you immediatly dismiss it as garbage and unrunnable. You also ask the question "who uses that anyway?" in various ways, as if any card you don't personnaly run isn't run by anyone.

Now I'm not trying start a flame war or an argument here (and I hope my fellow CoGgers behave in a similar manner) but there are a lot of us who look at the strategic possibilities of a card/combo. It's only been three sets since effects that summon from the deck have even existed. Most of us have been Special Summoning from the hand for a long time. It's a restriction that we're used to and can play around if we have to. If there are things that can be done with La Jin, then we're definitley going to try them. And you might be surprised at how well it works. But if you dismiss it outright, without seroiusly trying it, you really don't have a basis for your hypothesis.

Oh, and a lot of us run alot of different things. Mystic Swordsmen of every Level and Offerings to the Doomed and White Ninja's and a plethora of cards that others dismiss outright. And some of it is even tournament worthy.

Like I said, not trying to open up a can of worms here. Just making an observation.
 
It's almost funny how people will dismiss a 1800 attacker, but still use cards like Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer and D.D. Survivor in their decks...

Okay, so what if both of them have great effects?!! Don't they still have to be useful if they remain on the field?

I mean, what "really" is the difference of playing a card like Magician of Faith versus La Jinn? No one thinks twice about putting a 300 attack monster face-up, but just because La Jinn is a Normal 1800 attacker, he automatically gets tossed.

Don't get me wrong, Im not running out to get a Kaiba Deck, but an 1800 attacker is still better than a 1500 "negate a effect monster destroyed in battle" monster...
 
Are you seeing a lot of the 1500 ATK negate an effect monsters in your meta? If you get nothing but a beatstick (normal monster) why on earth would you choose an 1800 ATK beatstick? It just won't be getting the job done. Kycoo has a killer effect, same with Survivor. So there is a reason for them beyond the ATK they possess. And as far as useful effect+ATK goes they are still in the right category.

Outside of a normalcy deck or for fusions who really plays a normal monster anymore when they have better monsters with effects and at least as good an ATK?
 
No, I was just making a point. A 1800 Beatstick is going to take out anything below it that doesnt negate the attack or destroy it in the process.

I would never use a 1800 Normal Monster. There are too many 1900 ones to use. Ancient Lamp is only good in my opinion, for the redirect.
 
Ancient Lamp doenst Negate Attack and it activates after it flips up before damage calculation

Hence forth it looks like this.

Attack declared
- Effects? - Negate Attack, Sakuretsu Armor, Mystic Swordsman LV2 etc...
Flip Face down Creature Face up [ Only if there defending creature is face down ]
- Ancient Lamp effect gets placed here and asks if you wish to redirect the attack.
Damage Calculation
- Effect? - Power ups, counters.
Resolve Damage - If creature's defense hits 0 it is considered destroyed.
- Effects - Flip effects, D.D. Warrior Lady effect
Send creatures to grave.

preaty easy. :)
so preaty much
 
We can pretty much say that Kycoo is now the DDS of this year. DDS was the techy monster of the year of 2005. And Kycoo will be the tech monster of the year of 2006. DDS lost all purpose now that both DDWL and DDA is 1 per deck. Kycoo is now the tech for Pot of Avarice and Treeborn Frog.
 
I think the main thing that goes against Kycoo is RftDD. If my foe goes crazy with Kycoo + BTH thing, I would put my RftDD from my sidedeck to counter that.
 
you really wouldnt achive much to be honest, If your getting the 1800 just play a swarm move to get it Mirro forced [april 1st] then your stuck or they can just bottomless all the big guys, but then again you will say ill bring back my little guys, but what good with that do?

return id good but its not really a good answer to kycoo.

a good answer to kycoo would be something along the lines of more destruction, or anti graveyard touch.[Necrovalley]
 
yea but again your talking about a creature under Kycoo the Ghost Destroyers attack power.

Jinzo is a different beef... not to mention it doesnt see play that often now, you can most likely call out for Mobious and the probably is higher but then again you lost half you Lp for it. which in the end isnt really production unless your winning on that turn. :)
 
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