pssvr said:But I'm pretty sure by ignoring the conditions it just means the conditions on the cards, not the game mechanics. The conditions on the cards say it has to be summoned by such-and-such, while the game mechanic says it cannot be resurrected if not summoned properly first.
-pssvr
I wouldn't call it a 'game mechanic'. Let's look at a few things here..pssvr said:But would you agree that there IS a game mechanic that enables you to reborn a special summon only monster?
Correct, Masterwoo0. Te problem here is that we're looking to much at what we want the card to do, but we have a ruling thats reminding us of the games summoning mechanincs.masterwoo0 said:Okay... I think we all know what the effect of Level Modulation does, and I think we all know what we really "want" it to do, which is the big difference.
All Level Modulation does is allow us to Special Summon a monster from the Graveyard that cannot otherwise be done so once he ends up there after, yes I said "AFTER", being properly summoned by either Level Up! or by the effect of the Appropriate LV Monster.
If I Level Up! Silent Swordsman LV5 to bring out Silent Swordsman LV7, and he gets destroyed by Torrential Tribute, then, under normal circumstances, he would have to be returned to hand or deck and I'd have to go through the same process again to re-summon him.
Now, with Level Modulation, I can effectively summon that Level Monster from the Graveyard without using Level Up! or the lower level LV Monster's effect.
It's not that complex. When I saw the card for the first time, I thought the same thing. "Man, I can just toss my Silent Magician LV8 in the Graveyard and bring it out with Level Modulation and clean my opponents clock!!!" That's exactly what they are not going to let happen. You know as well as I do how entirely Broken that effect would be if not restricted to the current ruling.
I for one am more than pleased that it is not. I can just see everyone's deck loaded with 3x Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8's and doing everything possible to get him to the Graveyard and Royal Decree out on the field. Wouldnt have to worry about Exiled Force anymore because Horus LV8 can be reborn!!!
Come on guys, it's not shady at all. If anything, it's to keep a lot of people from quitting the game because it would be almost as bad as having Chaos back.
anthonyj said:Twiget, that wouldn't deck out the opponent, they would be unable to draw the next time they needed to.
pssvr, like I said ignoring the summoning conditions, special summon only monsters have summoning conditions that is what must be fulfilled before they can be special summoned. If you are specifically ignoring those why are you requiring them? It should have been worded differently to avoid this confusion. But the list of cards that that statement applies to is horrendous.
If that is how they want it done I'll do it that way. But when some Japanese player at Worlds yanks Horus LV8 out of the graveyard and looks at the U.S. player he is about to trounce like he's crazy when he claims it can't be brought out because it wasn't properly summoned first, I guarantee this needs to be the same for both games or this will come up and haunt UDE. In fact I'd be surprised if the U.S. player didn't jump up and throttle Kevin on the spot.
Tkwiget said:Oh really, I'd like to give you a few examples that I've been going off of.
Dark Magic Attack requires Dark Magician on the field.
Thousand Knives requires Dark Magician on the field.
Needle Ceiling requires four or more monsters on the field to activate.
Get one I'm saying, this card only requires a dead minimum of two cards in the opponent's Deck. Needle Ceiling requires a dead minimum of four monsters total on the field. This is ONLY at activation.
But, then again, it's only my opinion and I doubt anyone cares about that. -_- Brain hurts too much to care...
<waves fist at everyone for getting all these mechanics stuck in his head all day long..>
EDTI: Oh btw, check Needle Ceiling's first ruling.
Level Modulation's Effect said:Your opponent draws 2 cards. Special Summon 1 monster from your Graveyard that includes "LV" in its card name, ignoring the Summoning conditions. The monster that was Special Summoned by this effect cannot attack, nor activate or apply its effect this turn.
Level Modulation Ruling#2 said:You cannot activate "Level Modulation" if the opponent has 1 or less card in their Deck, or if you have "Protector of the Sanctuary" on the field.